[dev1237] Revamping High-Quality Items

[Rydin]

Another interesting point that I haven't seen anyone mention:

I am POSITIVE Yoshi-P said that getting all HQ mats would not only guarantee HQ, but would be the only way to HQ
Meaning having all NQ mats, or even most HQ and 1 NQ mat would always result in an NQ item.
I wondered what changed between then and now?

3 more interesting questions to discuss....

1. What happens when you use 1 or 2 HQ mats in a recipe that requires 4 or 5 ingredients?

2. Getting quality to 100% HQ rate, how is that balanced relative to how many abilities you have?
For instance.. If I have only Armorer to 50, but he is well geared, will I be able to guarantee HQ most crafts? If so, then having all 50's and having all abilities will make your HQing extremely easy

3. Will 50 crafters be able to guarantee 100% HQ on all recipes under 40?
If so, what are the in game implications of this?

[TheVedis]

Another interesting point that I haven't seen anyone mention:

I am POSITIVE Yoshi-P said that getting all HQ mats would not only guarantee HQ, but would be the only way to HQ
Meaning having all NQ mats, or even most HQ and 1 NQ mat would always result in an NQ item.
I wondered what changed between then and now?

3 more interesting questions to discuss....

1. What happens when you use 1 or 2 HQ mats in a recipe that requires 4 or 5 ingredients?

2. Getting quality to 100% HQ rate, how is that balanced relative to how many abilities you have?
For instance.. If I have only Armorer to 50, but he is well geared, will I be able to guarantee HQ most crafts? If so, then having all 50's and having all abilities will make your HQing extremely easy

3. Will 50 crafters be able to guarantee 100% HQ on all recipes under 40?

1) the same thing that happens now, your starting quality will start much higher
2) you have to actualy get to the max quality to get 100%, somehow i dont think thatl be easy regardless, and itl take several abilities to do so and some luck and being careful
3) no, but if you use all hqs youll have a vastly greater chance of getting it, which is the entire point of this

[Rydin]

3) no, but if you use all hqs youll have a vastly greater chance of getting it, which is the entire point of this

Im thinking like a Level 24 synth and you are a 50 crafter using all NQ mats... I bet you could get your HQ percentage pretty darn high
Im not saying thats bad... just discussing it

[TheVedis]

Im thinking like a Level 24 synth and you are a 50 crafter using all NQ mats... I bet you could get your HQ percentage pretty darn high
Im not saying thats bad... just discussing it

if you get it to 500, thats 10% chance which is actualy higher then we can get it now with 300 quality(im guessing 500 will be the new 300 when this hits)

right now its closer to a 5-10% chance when you get over 300 quality as is, so id say itl be about the same with all nq mats

HOWEVER if you find a way to push it higher itl only go up, so if you can do that....then yeah higher chance, problem is you eventualy hit 100% progress and thatl be where your journey ends

[Rydin]

if you get it to 500, thats 10% chance which is actualy higher then we can get it now with 300 quality(im guessing 500 will be the new 300 when this hits)

right now its closer to a 5-10% chance when you get over 300 quality as is, so id say itl be about the same with all nq mats

HOWEVER if you find a way to push it higher itl only go up, so if you can do that....then yeah higher chance, problem is you eventualy hit 100% progress and thatl be where your journey ends

All in all I like it...
I wonder if we'll get ability changes also

[TheVedis]

All in all I like it...
I wonder if we'll get ability changes also

dont really need them for the most part, but who knows

[Jashynvald]

I'm sorry sir but your dead wrong. Balancing durability and quality takes a lot more skill than just getting as much quality as possible.

Oh there is a balance, it's just that that balance is (currently) so far skewed to favor durability (for more touch-ups) that the extra risk and durability loss from a failed careful (not counting Perfection) isn't worth the investment of durability/risk for the quality it would put out on a 50+ craft.

[Kiara]

@Kiara

wait, hq affects the bonus peramters now? thats new to me

it affects alot of stuff, but i dont think its ever affected those, and by the looks of it it still wont, so no change was really made there, they were just clarifying once again how it works

Hi TheVedis,

Yes, it's a new change in their update today (I was shocked, but happily surprised as well):

Changes to the Attributes of HQ Gear

As before, HQ gear will boost basic parameters (physical defense, damage, attack delay, etc.), but will now boost bonus parameters as well (physical attack, magic attack, evasion, etc.)

I hope we get clarification about the "For each item equipped, only some bonus parameters will be enhanced".

[TheVedis]

Hi TheVedis,

Yes, it's a new change in their update today (I was shocked, but happily surprised as well):



I hope we get clarification about the "For each item equipped, only some bonus parameters will be enhanced".

ok somehow i misread that, for some reason i read it as it will not boost them lol

well that was actualy needed, glad to see they are doing that too(after all, crafting and gathering hq armor was complely useless before since all it did was raise armor value)

[Adlitim]

Oh there is a balance, it's just that that balance is (currently) so far skewed to favor durability (for more touch-ups) that the extra risk and durability loss from a failed careful (not counting Perfection) isn't worth the investment of durability/risk for the quality it would put out on a 50+ craft.

Hmm, maybe for you? I find it much more fun and challenging to balance than to spam careful syn as much as you can until its too risky. Heck now botters can HQ.