[dev1237] Revamping High-Quality Items

[tachikoma]

Love the changes, this is what I have asked for since day 1. This is remarkable considering how cryptic the HQ system was in FFXI. Now if I want to spend 2-4min. on a synth and really max out the quality, equip the proper gear, use all 10 abilities, etc I can really make a big impact on my HQ results. Only downside is I feel like I should avoid doing any synths till 1.21 and the stockpile of materia I have are gonna just collect some dust. Can't wait for 1.21!!!

[Kiara]

Changes to the Attributes of HQ GearAs before, HQ gear will boost basic parameters (physical defense, damage, attack delay, etc.), but will now boost bonus parameters as well (physical attack, magic attack, evasion, etc.)
* For each equipped item, only some bonus parameters will be enhanced.

Hi All,

This has potential, and it certainly is great knowing that if you take the time to farm and get all HQ Materials to start, you'll have a very good chance at HQ'ing (instead of the previous randomness (current)).

One thing that's "good news" but bad news at the same time is the part I quoted above:

* It's GREAT that HQ now affects the BONUS Parameters (like STR +5, DEX +5 portion of the Equipment)!

* But that Red Footnote sounds really lame: So in an effort to "balance" things, only *some* of the Boosted Parameters will be active when we Equip them? Huh?!

How confusing and disappointing is that?

You get, say, one HQ Item that has Boosted Stats, so STR +7 (normally +5 on NQ), but when you equip it, if some condition is met, you really only get STR +5 (the HQ Bonus doesn't turn on)?

Yoshida-san please reconsider this. It just leads to confusion and is misleading.

Thanks.

[TheVedis]

@Kiara

wait, hq affects the bonus peramters now? thats new to me

it affects alot of stuff, but i dont think its ever affected those, and by the looks of it it still wont, so no change was really made there, they were just clarifying once again how it works

[Kiara]

@Kiara

wait, hq affects the bonus peramters now? thats new to me

it affects alot of stuff, but i dont think its ever affected those, and by the looks of it it still wont, so no change was really made there, they were just clarifying once again how it works

Hi TheVedis,

Yes, it's a new change in their update today (I was shocked, but happily surprised as well):

Changes to the Attributes of HQ Gear

As before, HQ gear will boost basic parameters (physical defense, damage, attack delay, etc.), but will now boost bonus parameters as well (physical attack, magic attack, evasion, etc.)

I hope we get clarification about the "For each item equipped, only some bonus parameters will be enhanced".

[TheVedis]

Hi TheVedis,

Yes, it's a new change in their update today (I was shocked, but happily surprised as well):



I hope we get clarification about the "For each item equipped, only some bonus parameters will be enhanced".

ok somehow i misread that, for some reason i read it as it will not boost them lol

well that was actualy needed, glad to see they are doing that too(after all, crafting and gathering hq armor was complely useless before since all it did was raise armor value)

[Rydin]

Crafting just changes somewhat....

Hand of the Gods is not quite as important (You can argue this but I don't use HotG when making mats. If you're well geared, durability is never really an issue, and HotG lowers your success rate, which is bad for careful synths)
Masterpiece is a little more important

Rapid synthesis is a little less important
Immersion is a little more important

Assemble and Pride of Labor become just for emergencies (About to fail synth)
Clean Slate becomes your best friend

Unless the crafting abilities get an overhaul

You are 100% correct, it removes the skill out of crafting. Instead of focusing on trying to maintain quality and durability, your only focus is use HQ materials.. and spam standard so you are given 50% chance. If you use NQ items.. dont waste your time trying to get that 10% chance of HQ... your better off farming hq materials. This is a major step backwards for the crafting system.

Why would you spam standard for a 50% chance when the right abilities can give you a 100% chance?

Or using NQ mates maybe you could use your abilities and work up to a 25% chance of HQ.
Which, Ironically enough, is still leaps and bounds better than the HQ rates we have now

[AuctionGirl]

Why would you spam standard for a 50% chance when the right abilities can give you a 100% chance?

What I am meaning by this.. is dont even bother trying to HQ unless you have all HQ materials. If you waste 10 minutes trying to get that extra 50% in a chance of HQ, you could have had 5 HQ's in that time.

This takes skill (reduces skill) out of the equation, You are now forced to find HQ ingredients for any real chance of HQ... I made a thread describing this... It shouldnt be based on the materials you use as much as the ending quality.

[TheVedis]

What I am meaning by this.. is dont even bother trying to HQ unless you have all HQ materials. If you waste 10 minutes trying to get that extra 50% in a chance of HQ, you could have had 5 HQ's in that time.

This takes skill (reduces skill) out of the equation, You are now forced to find HQ ingredients for any real chance of HQ... I made a thread describing this... It shouldnt be based on the materials you use as much as the ending quality.

so in other words

we get the same chance to hq NQ mats
and we get an increased chance to hq with hq mats

so i see no problem at all with this, you shouldnt be able to easily hq with normal materials regardless of what you do, be thankful for the 10% chance they are offering if you get good quality(which is probly more then we can get now with all nq mats)

[Rydin]

What I am meaning by this.. is dont even bother trying to HQ unless you have all HQ materials. If you waste 10 minutes trying to get that extra 50% in a chance of HQ, you could have had 5 HQ's in that time.

This takes skill (reduces skill) out of the equation, You are now forced to find HQ ingredients for any real chance of HQ... I made a thread describing this... It shouldnt be based on the materials you use as much as the ending quality.

that completely hinges on the availability of HQ mats though

Also... being able to use abilities to push NQ mats HQ rate up to 20+% is worth doing to me....
But I guess thats a personal decision

[Chinook]

From my understanding, it just means that not every bonus attributes on a said piece of gear will get boosted in its HQ version.