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    Player
    tessellated's Avatar
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    Myth'ril Kumokiri
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    Tonberry
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    [Suggestion] PLD Requiescat

    I find it difficult to find any useful situations to use Requiescat+Holy Spirit spam in dungeons outside of the boss fights.
    Usually, because large pulls mean Total Eclipse is the best option when there are 4+ mobs.
    I wondered if maybe make Requiscat give Holy Spirit a splash effect for the buff duration to make it more useful for AoE situations.
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    Jace Ossura
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    I'd rather see something like this incorporated into a new ability.

    Like, something that makes damage reflect on a shield block for 8 seconds.
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    Carlo Vinne
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    Warrior Lv 80
    I don't think you're getting Holier than Holy, if that's what you're asking.

    Flash is your equivalent of MP -> AoE threat, or Requisecast -> Clemency Spam.
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    Sirius Vagus
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    Paladin Lv 80
    They should just make flash do damage under Requiescat or have it turn into a damaging aoe spell under Requiescat.
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SiriusSaltstice View Post
    They should just make flash do damage under Requiescat or have it turn into a damaging aoe spell under Requiescat.
    Then PLD would be uniquely wholly immune to resource limitations. DRK, like any caster, has only MP for AoE. WAR, like any physical combatant, has only TP by which to contribute against packs of enemies. At present, PLD can contribute against packs of enemies with both its MP and TP, the least capped, but at least can't contribute directly with both: MP allows for healer damage, while TP allows for the PLD's own. While it's more practical to consider the output, rather than the number of GCDs, available at any given time. But in that regard, PLD already outperforms DRK save for situations wherein it can fill a Delirium-Blood Weapon window entirely with self-refunding DA-Quietus, and probably only falls some 15 spammable (TE) potency short of parity with Warrior in a pull more wherein most mobs last around a half-minute, all while having the best independent emergency skills. It is not in a bad place, even if Warrior may be slightly overtuned in its AoE.

    As for making Requiescat an AoE, consider the cost: Holy Spirit is strong enough to be rotationally advantageous in single target, but can only afford to be so because it's single-target. Make it AoE, and now -- in raids -- you lose your window of opportunity to continue attacking at range, burst windows (where coincidentally timed, following choice of opener), and considerable gameplay flavor.
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    Feli Aiko
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    Odin
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Having Req modify Flash would be an easy update. Like how DWT modifies Tri-Bind by removing the bind effect and adding 70 potency to it.
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    Mute Shellback
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    Behemoth
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by FeliAiko View Post
    Having Req modify Flash would be an easy update. Like how DWT modifies Tri-Bind by removing the bind effect and adding 70 potency to it.
    i could see that as a 5.0 thing
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    Rys Sol
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    Omega
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    Warrior Lv 90
    No, PLD really doesn't need any buffs.
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    Ceciliantas Drayce
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    Cactuar
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Launched View Post
    No, PLD really doesn't need any buffs.
    Its true, had many salty Warriors get upset when I tear threat off them at a whim then keep it. PLD is fine.
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    Scarlett Dzian
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    Sargatanas
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    Bard Lv 76
    Quote Originally Posted by Launched View Post
    No, PLD really doesn't need any buffs.
    I do sometimes think it could use a couple of defensive tweaks. I mean by comparison to war and i think dark. Sentinel has bloody massive cool down. So does bullwark. Hell shake it off even puts divine veil to shame.
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