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  1. #41
    Player DrWho2010's Avatar
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    Maximum Powerful
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    Hyperion
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeykama View Post
    I'm not going to farm f21-30 dozens of times just for 1 attempt.
    that's what they want you to do tho.
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  2. #42
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    Melichoir's Avatar
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    Desia Demarseille
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by CorbinDallas View Post
    So my group wiped on floor 99 to terrible consecutive floor debuff RNG, and all we had to show for it was 7 platinum sacks each. The only thing of note was a Sephirot rapier, everything else was garbage tier materia/songs/minions that come from the lower tier sacks.

    As for it being quick? That run was a total of 5+ hours, with breaks for lunch/bathroom included. 5 hours, for a grade 5 mind materia. Yay.
    As someone already asked, Cheese and wine?

    Seriously though, the sacks are RNG based, you get better RNG for rarer things the higher you go. If you get junk, it happens. I personally dont think the rates are bad, and the fact that once your 99/99 aetherpool, getting up to 71 isnt bad. Yeah, HoH can take a while. Its part of what it is.

    But you not getting the loot you want from plat sacks just amounts to complaining frivolously.
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  3. #43
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    Jeykama's Avatar
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    Meru Maru
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    Balmung
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by DrWho2010 View Post
    that's what they want you to do tho.
    I suppose. I don't see why a solo challenge should be blocked behind running 21-30 for potsherds 50+ times to have enough for a single climb. If they're going to keep these potions untradeable -and- make them exclusive to potsherds -and- make them so necessary to progress ... my god don't make me farm one floorset like this. At least in PotD I did the 200 climb a lot so ended up accumulating a hundred-plus potsherds there, but the drop rate from bronzes felt like up to 50/50 in the ash levels - the bronze chests in HoH barely ever drop them, even at floor 71+.

    I'm not adverse to grinding, but I'd rather grind multiple options. Everything's 70 already so I can't even use that as a personal excuse.
    It would just be nice if there were more ways to get more empyrean potions passively, like as a replacement for the super-potion mob drops, bronze chests or junk in hoards.
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  4. #44
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    Berteaux_Braumegain's Avatar
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    Berteaux Braumegain
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Pastahnak View Post
    Confetti in general needs to be removed as a "reward" I'd 100% perfer to literally get nothing.
    Agreed. I'd rather get Allagan Tin Pieces because those are at least five times more valuable when sold.
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  5. #45
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    alimdia's Avatar
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    Ali Lifesaver
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    Gilgamesh
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    Marauder Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Melichoir View Post
    But you not getting the loot you want from plat sacks just amounts to complaining frivolously.
    It's not frivolous, 12x4 sacks with one group, 8x4 with a different group, out of those 80 sacks more than half the loot was garbage rolls, garbage materia, garbage minions that are in silver sacks. No one is saying we should get dodos in every sack, but these sacks are much much worse than potd sacks. It leaves one with very little desire to do it again when the reward from hours of stress is sastasha orchestrion roll.
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  6. #46
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    Nihility's Avatar
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    Tenebria Miku
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    Behemoth
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    It's not frivolous, 12x4 sacks with one group, 8x4 with a different group, out of those 80 sacks more than half the loot was garbage rolls, garbage materia, garbage minions that are in silver sacks. No one is saying we should get dodos in every sack, but these sacks are much much worse than potd sacks. It leaves one with very little desire to do it again when the reward from hours of stress is sastasha orchestrion roll.
    It also takes less than half the time too, my group just got another dodo and miniature tower along with the low end prizes. Even most of the minions are selling for 30-200k
    It's not bad at all
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  7. #47
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    alimdia's Avatar
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    Ali Lifesaver
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    Gilgamesh
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    Marauder Lv 80
    I have to do HoH almost 2 times to get the same amount of hoards as potd, so the balance is there, nerfed loot is a second penalization that is not necessary.

    Congrats you're getting lucky, but not everyone has your good luck.

    Edit for a bit of insight: in PotD you have to climb 100 easy floors for 50 challenging floors with the "good" hoards, to match this in HoH you have to climb 100 easy floors (21-71 twice) for 60 challenging floors with less-than-good hoards. The only real benefit of HoH is that you're able to do 10 extra floors compared to PotD, that doesn't warrant getting materia V from sacks.
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    Last edited by alimdia; 07-10-2018 at 11:32 AM.

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