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    MuseTraveller's Avatar
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    Mihn Saruihn
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    One bug and the end of the world coming. How typical.
    I do agree this bug seems like something very easy to catch but to me personally it sounds like their QA team is small/or was cut short and when you have to test so many things in such short time, mistakes happen, things slip. It's not rare when programmers or such act as QA team instead of having dedicated people purely for testing. Not saying that's the case over there, just saying I've seen it as common practice in companies and it won't surprise me.

    Hopefully they fix it soon, I do enjoy PotD type content and I was looking forward to level some classes above 60!
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    I'm actually fairly reminded, also, of the plaque incident in WoW that involved getting pets sick, unsummoning them, and bringing them back out in the middle of a crowded city. Separate issue, but it kinda sorta highlights how easy it is for pets to break stuff, sometimes in glorious ways that become a case study of some sort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aster_E View Post
    I'm actually fairly reminded, also, of the plaque incident in WoW that involved getting pets sick, unsummoning them, and bringing them back out in the middle of a crowded city. Separate issue, but it kinda sorta highlights how easy it is for pets to break stuff, sometimes in glorious ways that become a case study of some sort.
    They actually used that event to study real life epidemic and terrorism scenarios. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrupted_Blood_incident
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    Quote Originally Posted by InkstainedGwyn View Post
    They actually used that event to study real life epidemic and terrorism scenarios. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrupted_Blood_incident
    Like I said, a case study. =p
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    Well, they’re taking the servers down now... after not being able to fix HoH.
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...e-%28Jul.-4%29

    I really think they should start considering a test server to help prevent these sort of things. :/ I was willing to wait for HoH even though I really wanted to farm sacks for minions and the hairstyle... but now I can’t even pass the time farming Extremes to try and get dogs. >.>
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    Last edited by HyoMinPark; 07-04-2018 at 04:58 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    Well, they’re taking the servers down now... after not being able to fix HoH.
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...e-%28Jul.-4%29

    I really think they should start considering a test server to help prevent these sort of things. :/ I was willing to wait for HoH even though I really wanted to farm sacks for minions and the hairstyle... but now I can’t even pass the time farming Extremes to try and get dogs. >.>
    Nor can I craft away leves I never completed until now for achievements' sake. <_<
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    Well, they’re taking the servers down now... after not being able to fix HoH.
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...e-%28Jul.-4%29

    I really think they should start considering a test server to help prevent these sort of things. :/ I was willing to wait for HoH even though I really wanted to farm sacks for minions and the hairstyle... but now I can’t even pass the time farming Extremes to try and get dogs. >.>
    I mean it sucks but its only half of a day of downtime not really the end of the world and even with a test server you cant guarantee everything will be caught.

    I like the experience of playing things fresh and if that means there is an occasional bug that gets through its acceptable trade off IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rita1989 View Post
    I mean it sucks but its only half of a day of downtime not really the end of the world and even with a test server you cant guarantee everything will be caught.
    Never said that it was the end of the world. I’m not normally one to complain about maintenances, but I cannot ignore that the emergency ones have increased with Stormblood’s launch.

    I like the experience of playing things fresh and if that means there is an occasional bug that gets through its acceptable trade off IMO.
    Test servers don’t have to give you everything in one go, but they may be able to catch some of the things that the developers do not—like this bug for instance that is apparently high enough in importance to not only shut down the content for 6 hours, but also the servers for another 3 1/2. They also don’t have to be mandatory; if SE were to do a test server, I’m certain it would be an opt-in sort of deal. Don’t want spoilers? Don’t be a player tester. Simple as that.
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    Last edited by HyoMinPark; 07-04-2018 at 05:58 PM.
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    I feel like it’s not something that was guaranteed to be found even if they did playtest with a summoner, because Bahamut is summoned for such a short amount of time that there’s no guarantee he would ever be active at the time when the player left the dungeon. They might check that he’s behaving correctly within the dungeon, but not think of there being a problem when leaving.

    I would have thought it’s no different to leaving any normal dungeon, and nobody’s had trouble with that up until now. Though perhaps PotD has the same coding flaw that just never got discovered because you can’t reach Lv70 in there, and any playtesting for HoH focused on new gameplay elements and not the PotD base programming.

    In any case, I suspect it’s something they’ll deliberately test in any future new content modes...
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    T'yena Mitnu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    I feel like it’s not something that was guaranteed to be found even if they did playtest with a summoner, because Bahamut is summoned for such a short amount of time that there’s no guarantee he would ever be active at the time when the player left the dungeon. They might check that he’s behaving correctly within the dungeon, but not think of there being a problem when leaving.
    You're right. Plus, if you're a QA tester and get to the end of a test scenario, you're probably completing your notes, so you're not necessarily going to rush out of the content fast enough in that particular combination (why would you think that would cause an issue?). As you say, now that they've discovered it can be a problem, it'll be a test scenario they add to the list... but yeah, it doesn't surprise me that this bug slipped through. As some people said, it probably would have been caught on a public test server, but that definitely brings its own complications too.
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