Forum post character limit increased

[DPZ2]

This is a terrible argument.
When I went to school, this has been considered normal. To backup a statement so much that you do not have play "argument volleyball" back and forth just because everyone can't be bothered to read more than two lines.

... attention span of the Millenials..

I can assure you that if you don't succinctly explain your argument in the first 200 words or so, it will get ignored or misinterpreted. Key word: 'succinct'.

Both of my sons are millenials. In your post, you failed the argument as soon as you ran to stereotype. Your argument reads better when it ends with "than two lines".

[Mysticales]

To those wondering about character limits. One of the reasons forum/server admins set these limits is to prevent database issues.
SQL Server admins know what I mean. Say on avg. Your threads are 5-10 pages. Then you may have one thread that is 3000 pages+. It causes that part of the table not to be optimized which can in turn slow or bottleneck another area.

Imagine if we had 20k posts.. times that by so many. It could cause things to choke up if the server isnt tuned right.

[Hestzhyen]

This is a terrible argument.
When I went to school, this has been considered normal. To backup a statement so much that you do not have play "argument volleyball" back and forth just because everyone can't be bothered to read more than two lines.

But eh, the educational systems worldwide seem to have changed and fit the short attention span of the Millenials.. That watch Netflix series with 1.5x speed while playing video games during their chat on the phone...

I can't wait to be an old grouch like you and blame everything on the younger generation's shortcomings... Even back in your youth there were plenty of people who didn't have the time or inclination to read walls of text, especially if it held little of value. And wouldn't you know, being succinct and saying exactly what's needed without any fluff is the cornerstone to making an effective argument, no matter what the topic is! I'm pretty sure you were taught that back in the day when you had to walk up hill both ways in the snow with a baby strapped to your back just to get to/from school, right? Or were you too busy pulling yourself up by your bootstraps to pay attention in class?


Yay to increase, boo to it not being retroactively applied. Wistful suggestion: can replies that quote text have the quoted sections not count towards the character limit? That's often how I end up going over.

[Sigma-Astra]

This is a terrible argument.
When I went to school, this has been considered normal. To backup a statement so much that you do not have play "argument volleyball" back and forth just because everyone can't be bothered to read more than two lines.

But eh, the educational systems worldwide seem to have changed and fit the short attention span of the Millenials.. That watch Netflix series with 1.5x speed while playing video games during their chat on the phone...

When you went to school....? I mean, I'm 30 years old and playing XIV and considered a Millennial. You must be like....40-60...at least, closer towards that age range to be considered NOT a millennial in which case, what does that even matter?

The people who blame all of their problems or pet peeves on another age group act JUST like some of the people that they so despise from another age grouping.

There's also nothing wrong with multi-tasking if it can be done right either.

[KisaiTenshi]

To those wondering about character limits. One of the reasons forum/server admins set these limits is to prevent database issues.
SQL Server admins know what I mean. Say on avg. Your threads are 5-10 pages. Then you may have one thread that is 3000 pages+. It causes that part of the table not to be optimized which can in turn slow or bottleneck another area.

Imagine if we had 20k posts.. times that by so many. It could cause things to choke up if the server isnt tuned right.

I remember when a phpBB2 forum I ran hit about page 100 for a thread... anyone with administrative privileges were no longer able to view the forum, because the administrative privilege did something that required looking at every post.

Most forums today tend to store threads in one table (eg the first post minus the body of the text), and the post body in another table, and the actual process of assembling a thread is something like "get post startat to display limit from post body table, thread table".

There's also two kinds of text fields, one is char/varchar, which is indexable, and another which is basically "text/blob" which is not indexable. So the search process typically has to create a keyword counter every time a post is created or edited, and it needs to be rebuilt every so often. Take note that if you try to search anything on this forum, it usually won't go back before 2017, because that hits the 20 page search limit. However if you go to google and search the forum, you can find posts all the way back from 2013.

At any rate, the limit is very specifically a vBulletin thing.
AdminCP > Settings > Options > Message Posting and Editing Options > Maximum Characters per Post

The limit really doesn't matter except to curtail spam, and "quote" pyramids. If something else was the issue, it's not Vbulletin, PHP or the underlying SQL server imposing it.

[Sove92]

At any rate, the limit is very specifically a vBulletin thing.
AdminCP > Settings > Options > Message Posting and Editing Options > Maximum Characters per Post

The limit really doesn't matter except to curtail spam, and "quote" pyramids. If something else was the issue, it's not Vbulletin, PHP or the underlying SQL server imposing it.

That is not the limit SE is using for these forums. The built-in limit applies to all posts, on everybody, on all sections and it cannot be bypassed by editing. They are using their own vB hack to do this, so they could impose the limits to certain sections, while keeping sections like bug reports unlimited. Needless to say, it's not coded very well.

[HyoMinPark]

Greetings!

You’ve all been asking and we are happy to share, the character limit for forum posts has been increased to 3000 characters.

Thank you for your continued support of Final Fantasy XIV, we look forward to hearing more feedback from you!

Just to update, I am still having to edit posts (both replies and non-replies, with and without quotes, brand new threads and older ones before this update was supposedly implemented) to bypass the 1,000 limit. Is this change literally just limited to the opening post a person writes when creating a new thread? I haven’t made a thread to test it out, but it’s not working with any other type of post.

[Alleo]

Just to update, I am still having to edit posts (both replies and non-replies, with and without quotes, brand new threads and older ones before this update was supposedly implemented) to bypass the 1,000 limit. Is this change literally just limited to the opening post a person writes when creating a new thread? I haven’t made a thread to test it out, but it’s not working with any other type of post.

Which would be strange because that should have been part of their statement. But hey it really does not surprise me anymore...

[Driskus]

Would be nice if the increase had actually happened, but in typical SE fashion, they fail to test even the smallest things before release. Just got hit with the 1000-character limit posting in General Discussion.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Greetings!

You’ve all been asking and we are happy to share, the character limit for forum posts has been increased to 3000 characters.

Thank you for your continued support of Final Fantasy XIV, we look forward to hearing more feedback from you!

Just attempted to post in an existing thread and create a brand new one, both were met with the same 1,000 character limit error. Has this change not yet gone live?