Gender Bias in Character Creation

[KisaiTenshi]

If this were true how do you explain the complete domination of women in certain fields like nursing and early childhood education? Where are the programs to get men more involved in those fields to achieve gender parity?

There's also something to be said for things like trash collection, construction and oil work - all almost entirely male.

Do you think people are just tossing out resumes in those fields, is that how you would explain the gaps?

Men amd women have different strengths and interests.

The city I used to live in, the only major program the college had was Nursing, and that was supported by the only AP course in the high school, AP Biology. I wouldn't necessarily say it's dominated by women, but it has the same "yuck" factor as trash collection, or heat and sparks from welding. Nurses are often exposed to toxic chemicals and all manner of infections diseases. That's something that calls for someone who can follow directions without error, and if you are someone who thinks instructions and rules should be ignored, you're shown the door, since that will lead to someones death.

Everyone is capable of having those interests. But those interests have to be nurtured by parents and teachers and a seen application of them. If your parents are doctors and engineers, you might get flack for being interested in the arts and keep it to yourself at first sign of disapproval. On the other hand, if your parents or grandparents didn't have a high school education, you might not place a great value on their approval or disapproval.

What it comes down to is why those interests aren't greater. If the aim is gender parity in all fields, that simply is not going to be a thing. An example with the Janitorial and Garbage Pickup services... those jobs are often viewed as disgusting, but they pay really well for relatively not that much work. Janitorial work doesn't require a degree, but requires reading MSDS and knowing what a lot of words are if you have to clean up a site that deals with chemical or biological hazards, like a medical clinic. So why is the Janitorial job the one that's looked down on?

Anyway some of you are nitpicking this. There is no biological directive for men or women to be interested in anything. It's all cultural for the most part. "Women"'s culture and "Men"'s culture in North America is not uniformly the same, and because there's such an enforcement of gender barriers in everything from childrens toys to religious services, Women often feel like they are supposed to pay second fiddle to men, when they absolutely don't have to.

Umm..i have experience with this XD

In a vocational high school, they actually rotate everyone throughout every single trade for the first year of shop classes (it was split half academics, half shop.) .

The middle school and the first two years of high school had something like this. Everyone was rotated through metalwork, woodwork, cooking, and textiles in grade 8. Those were the classes kids wound up skipping and faced no consequences for. Grade 9 and 10 we actually had to pick which "shop" classes out of a very short list, and if the class you wanted didn't have enough students you got dumped into whichever class there was still a teacher for.

[MoroMurasaki]

The city I used to live in...

You did nothing to answer my question, you just went off on a tangent.

Early Childhood Education and Nursing are more than 90% female.

Trash collection, construction and oil riggers are very nearly 100% male.

Why would these extreme disparaties exist if there were not fundamental differences in the interests and aptitudes of men and women? There is no exclusive "boys club" holding back women from working on garbage trucks yet they still don't. There is similarly nothing keeping men from becoming pre-k teachers but they also don't in any great number.

Don't give me some silly anecdote about your hometown, answer the question. If all you have is some vague bogeyman keeping genders relatively separate in their work you have nothing.

Women often feel like they are supposed to pay second fiddle to men, when they absolutely don't have to.

The only way I have felt inferior to men my entire life has been physically and that's just a straight up fact. I will never be as physically strong as a comperably fit man and that's fine.

I still don't feel like I have ever had to "play second fiddle" - if anything it's quite the opposite and I tend to be given advantages in every avenue from people holding the door or carrying things to my car for me to actual affirmative action initiatives.

[Joven]

Whatever happened to talking about bulge sliders?

[MoroMurasaki]

Whatever happened to talking about bulge sliders?

I don't know. A page or so ago I said I didn't want to open this can of worms and then a bunch of other people dove in and I couldn't help myself ;-;

Bulge sliders are still silly though. Chest hair first.

[Magic-Mal]

Trash collection, construction and oil riggers are very nearly 100% male.

Can confirm there's at least one female trash lady in my area so it's like 99.8% male :P

She was gay though....

[Joven]

I don't know. A page or so ago I said I didn't want to open this can of worms and then a bunch of other people dove in and I couldn't help myself ;-;

Bulge sliders are still silly though. Chest hair first.

(Hurray for post limits...)

I know that feeling....just trying to prevent what happened to a certain other thread.

Silly or not as long as it's optional I'm all for it, but you are 100% correct, chest (and back) hair first and foremost

[Ameela]

I'd settle for a male-only butt slider.

[DiscoDuck]

Just give males body hair options so no one has to use photoshop on screenshots anymore

[Kacho_Nacho]

I think the original inquiry was silly. We definitely don't need a manhood slider.

Plus, it'll look stupid on a lalafell.

[Awha]

I think the original inquiry was silly. We definitely don't need a manhood slider.

Plus, it'll look stupid on a lalafell.

Chest hair is love, chest hair is life! More options for everyone.