I keep running into Astro running Shields in Farm PTs as a SCH. (Why?)

[Ursa_Vonfiebryd]

I heard that you can get bigger crit heals in Nocturnal, but in that case the person would mostly be healing with benefic or benefic II (and Helios) for the crit proc. My AST is my best geared right now, I use that for higher end stuff and the I try to switch to accommodate whoever I am running with. There have been cases when I A) didn't switch in time and had to wait until a battle was over (for Trials this means straight heals with no Aspected, depending on what I'm paired with) and B) it's synched content and I forgot a sect at all and accidently picked the wrong one because I wasn't paying attention. I still take it upon myself to adjust if the other person either can't (due to class) or won't (because reasons, I guess). I'm sorry you've had so many issues. I have all 3 healers and I've run into many versions of this.

[MoroMurasaki]

I would try not to take it too personally - these people are generally uninformed.

Since swapping from SCH to WHM in SB I haven't had to deal with this nearly as much but during the process of leveling SCH I did encounter a few of these ASTs. I just let them solo heal. It was generally fine (maybe with me tossing out an Indom or a Lustrate and still using fairy abilities) and the few times it wasn't I would explain to them after a wipe.

If they swapped, cool... if not, I'm not there to carry them through their own ineptitude.

[Jaybiz650]

The only thing I can of is that these people think they are doing everybody a favor by running nocturnal sect due tot he extra 5% potency boost over diurnal...is that worth overriding your SCH co-healer? No. Unfortunately some people are just not always going to listen to suggestions to play in a way that will benefit the team the most.

[Kurando]

I heard that you can get bigger crit heals in Nocturnal

I remember correctly a crit Aspec Ben offers a 250% barrier of the amount restored whilst a crit Aldo is double the amount. But the difference being is SCH can spread that particular barrier, whilst AST cannot unless they use Aspec Helios (but then both that and Succor is 150%)

Personally I think the strongest barrier should stay active rather than be overridden, but then that doesn't fix the ASTs that are hell bent on not going Diurnal.

[MaloraYuki]

Its called people don’t want to work with their cohealers. It’s being a bad player plain and simple. Not understanding isn’t really an excuse especially if it’s max level content. Not working with your cohealer is a bad player. There are two healers if you are Astro and the other is let’s say sch you should be in diu. Shields don’t stack. Actually had a player on here say double diu astros is okay because he can solo heal. No, that’s bad play. People need to learn to adjust to the group you are working with. I’ve ran double sch and you need to talk and work together in those situations so you aren’t overlapping. There is no reason a Astro who has two stances can’t swap. But that’s just me, I believe in working with your team and not being a hindrance to them.

[Deceptus]

I had an AST in my FC back at the end of Heavensward who wouldn't switch to Diurnal when paired with a SCH. When I asked why she said "AST shields are better." While I don't think that that's the truth now or was even back then

There was a time when the base AST shield was better than the base Adlo and was instant cast.

[Kurando]

There was a time when the base AST shield was better than the base Adlo and was instant cast.

Unless something was changed, that is still the case.

Aspec Ben - 250% Insta cast.
Adloquium - 200% 1.89 cast time

[Maltothoris]

The crit aldo is still stronger. Normal aspec bene noct stance is stronger (805>600). However when u apply a crit heal, it about 40 percent. but that number is doubled so its about 1260 potency in total where the crit noct shield is 1180.

Ultimately though, noct shields are still stronger than sch on average and all the time for aspected helios. However, its the utility and the flexibility of the SCH that puts it head and shoulders above the noct ast right now.

[Comrade_uri]

I am still new to the whole SCH side of things. Always thought it's shields was it's trump card so what flexibility is meant when speaking about SCH? Is it the burst healing it can pull off with I think emergency tactics and the AoE HoT fey skill? I know chain strat is ultility as is deployment tactics (can never seem to get that to work, timer doesn't go up on eye for eye) and I know it has two dots and an instant cast ruin 2 making it very mobile when it comes to damage if the need arises (yay AoE rain) but what else is there?

[Duskane]

the Sects can be a pretty forgettable thing sometimes had a SCH annoy me That i had Nocturnal sect on (this was just a hunt btw) after it.
but in a place like extreme why would that ast be so adamant about changing when a main point in the job is to be filler of regen/Shield