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Thread: SAM worth?

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    Mustad Markolak
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    Samurai Lv 59

    SAM worth?

    Greetings,

    I'm a new final fatansy player and An issue has been bothering me.

    I'm recently reached lvl 50 and became a samurai and enjoy so much to play with him. But, Some guildmates were telling me SAM is worst melee DPS and i will not make end game content, because have no utility to party.

    That's true? I know SAM does not give much to the party, but I will not get some progress?

    Thanks.

    P.s: Anyone have some SAM guide?
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    King Canadane
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 100
    Nothing is unusable in endgame.
    Unless you're on the bleeding edge if being the world first clear of new content, your class likely won't matter.

    Some groups have their preferred jobs to take, but they can very likely succeed with others all the same.
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    Player Okamimaru's Avatar
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    Rastiana Bel'briar
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    Malboro
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    Samurai Lv 90
    I main sam... 90% of the population will never play at the level that it will matter which class you choose over another... play what you enjoy and get good at that class... anyone who locks you out due to class choice most likely isn't worth playing with
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Samurai, unfortunately, is a job where if you aren't stellar relative to the group, you're borderline useless. This is due to it's only contribution being raw damage. A bad Dragoon still offers piercing, Battle Litany and Dragon Sight whereas a bad Samurai offers nothing.

    Now with that said, if you're dedicated, you can not only play Samurai, but find groups happily willing to accept you. Just keep in mind, you may struggle depending on what your aspirations. If you only want to get your feet wet and join a more casual static or pug, don't worry too much about meta or what have you. If you eventually aim to get into more mid groups though, it can be difficult squeezing in as you're generally competing with Monk and Ninja—the latter being very popular.
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    Burnt Marshmallow
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    Samurai Lv 90

    It is what you make it

    I main SAM. But I also have MNK and BRD up to 70 for DPS. I think that if you care about being as effective as possible in top tier content like Sigma Savage or UwU, then you would be better served with choosing another class. However, that doesn't mean you can't do that content as a SAM. I love SAM, it's simple and satisfying to play well. I think if you enjoy SAM, you shouldn't be afraid to stick with it. There's also no harm in branching out and trying a different DPS. I would suggest MNK, since they share gear with SAM and that way you don't feel overwhelmed when gearing your job. Also, don't listen to Bourne Endeavor. You have a slashing debuff as SAM and while Ninja and Warrior have the same debuff, it's still a useful addition. You won't always have a WAR or NIN in the group. All content has been cleared by all jobs. Play what you like.
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    Minati Illu
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Play what you like. Even in extreme and savage content, SAM is doing its job well. We had a static with SAM, MNK and RDM and we could clear Sigmascape savage just fine.

    Also, not every party has a NIN and a WAR (I really like the PLD/DRK combo for example, and NIN isn't always available), and the fact SAM is bringing slashing debuff is really nice.
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    Pastahnak Popotonak
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    Famfrit
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    Fisher Lv 80
    I'd rather play with someone who is dedicated to learning a non meta job they enjoy playing than someone fumbling around on a meta job. Jobs in this game are pretty balanced to where you'll be fine clearing with any job u pick. That being said as a Samurai your support to the group is your big damage numbers and slashing debuff. So I'll suggest for now since ur only lvl 50 enjoy the lvling of Sam right now, personally for me it was one of my favorite jobs to lvl, it's a job u will naturally learn to play overtime and when u hit lvl 70 Google a samurai guide to see where u can optimize your dps.
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    Sylvestre Solscribe
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    Pretty what people said.

    Unless you are looking for bleeding edge progression and world first (where every bit of dps will matter) your job simply won't matter.

    In any case, your skill as a player will be orders of magnitudes more important than your job.
    Simple yet effective example, you should always out dps a redmage, yet à good redmage will out dps a bad samurai.
    A group of good non meta job will always do better than a group of meta job.

    So I wouldn't worry too much. If your good and work hard you'll be able to clear any content really.

    I play BLM when I dps and people can say what ever they want about BLM being a selfish dps, when in most group at least 2 dps die during the encounter, my selfish dps brings more rdps than the Nin who died.

    I don't think there's currently a single encounter where you can lack dps if no one dies and play remotely nice.
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    Mustad Markolak
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    Thx for de answer ppl! I will stay with SAM!
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    Ohlala Chica
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    Zodiark
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    Alchemist Lv 100
    the only issue sam's (and blm) have, is that Party Finders sometimes (or often) exclude them from savage / ultimate / extreme endraids..., since sam and Blm do not buff others, and for many "good fflogs" uplaods are more important than anything..., and for that sam and blm are "useless" for others (unless the PF has no nin or war for the slashing debuff)

    if fflogs site were tooken down, the "meta" comp issue would drop in half if not more... (its imo more a "I want a dps that buffs me", than a "ideal comp" issue with the meta thingy)
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    Last edited by Shiroe; 07-03-2018 at 08:13 PM.

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