Permanent collaborations

[Con_Carne]

In the past, I was asking for Shantotto's return. Here I wanna talk about all old seasonal collaboration events: Lightning, Shantotto, Dragon Quest, Iroha, and Yo-kai. I would like all of them back and, this time, to be permanent, not seasonal.

There are many players (like me) that may want to play those not just for the rewards, but for the experience and the story. Seriously, the only one I haven't played was Shantotto's, and I truly would like it... By doing this, both old players who didn't could play them and new ones can have the opportunity. Like with the Garo collaboration, which by the way doesn't have a story.

I know both Lightning and Shantotto's rewards are already in Mog Station, that's why I suggest new rewards from those, but the stories and FATEs would be the same.

I'll explain my ideas of how this should work now. It includes new rewards for these collaborations, a new NPC vendor, and a new item:

Syngiwyb NPC

This Limsa Lominsa NPC vendor from the Lightning event would become now a permanent vendor, so we could get the new collaboration rewards in exchange of tokens, both from old collaborations and possible future ones.

Syngiwyb would be now focused in special collaborations rewards, in a similar way to the Calamity Savager.

Iroha, Dragon Quest, and Yo-kai collaborations

Since these collaborations' rewards are not yet in Mog Station, they would be again available from their quests without many changes.

Yo-kai rewards would still be available from its vendor at the Gold Saucer.

While Iroha's gear would still be a quest reward, Iroha's FATEs would give now tokens to obtain new introduced rewards from Syngiwyb:

* Minion: Wind-up Iroha
* Orchestrion Roll: Recollection (I think that was the theme played in the event's final cutscene).
* Crystal Memory: Iroha (I will explain this later)

Shantotto collaboration

Its story would be the same, but since Shantotto's original reward (her minion) is already in Mog Station, a new reward would be available from the quest, but a similar one to the minion to fit in the story:

* Furnishing: Shantotto Plush
* Suggested title: Test subject...

Also, her FATE would give tokens to obtain new rewards from Syngiwyb:

* Mount: Morbol (allusion to the fact that Morbol is a mount in XI)
* Orchestrion Roll: Reign of Pain
* Emote: Ohohoho (Why not?)
* Crystal Memory: Shantotto

By having now these two XI stories (Shantotto and Iroha) permanent, we could have a 3rd and final new chapter based on XI (since I felt the Iroha's ending was... "uncomplete"). This 3rd chapter could be now a high-level quest set in another place like Othard for example.

Lightning collaboration

Just like Shantotto, Lightning's original rewards are already in Mog Station. So this would give also new rewards while keeping the same story:

* Crystal Memory: Lightning
* Suggested title: Pulse l'Cie...

While from tokens, we could get these things from Syngiwyb:

* Mount: Dreadgnought (a mount I already suggested here)
* Minion: Wind-up Lightning
* Orchestrion Roll: Blinded by Light (heard in some of her FATEs)
* Orchestrion Roll: Saber's Edge (heard in her final FATE)
* Orchestrion Roll: March of the Dreadnoughts (Dreadnought mount's theme)

So, that's what I think. As for those Crystal Memories item, I'll explain it in other thread: HERE

[Kazrah]

Personally I wouldn't mind this if it was limited to just games from the Final Fantasy series, especially given how long ago it's been since the Shantotto event was around. It'd make for another good way of honoring other elements of past games.

As for other series like Dragon Quest or Yo-Kai, I'd say no to just because it feels like it'd draw too much focus away from the Final Fantasy series, which is what I think the game should honor more.

[Ilyrian]

As for other series like Dragon Quest or Yo-Kai, I'd say no to just because it feels like it'd draw too much focus away from the Final Fantasy series, which is what I think the game should honor more.

Yes, absolutely. There's so much history there with the FF back catalogue and even more in-house Square(Enix) stuff with the Mana series, Chrono series etc.
The cynic in me says that the ones they do are all a quick cash-grab, however.

[Lambdafish]

Personally I wouldn't mind this if it was limited to just games from the Final Fantasy series, especially given how long ago it's been since the Shantotto event was around. It'd make for another good way of honoring other elements of past games.

As for other series like Dragon Quest or Yo-Kai, I'd say no to just because it feels like it'd draw too much focus away from the Final Fantasy series, which is what I think the game should honor more.

Garo is permenant, and is not Final Fantasy. If speculation is also to be believed, monster hunter may also be permanent.

[Lambdafish]

The MHW crossover is also looking like it won't be a "do this crappy fate for this reason" like other events. If it's a trial there's no reason to go to the lengths of making a whole trial just to have it go away forever in a month.

Exactly, whereas fates clutter the overworld and in a way 'take over' the overworld for a period of time. That is not well suited to a permanent collaboration, and would have to be redesigned if put back into the game (at which point, why not just put the resources into a new event). Also, aren't the items on the mogstation? That seems like the easiest solution.

[Pastahnak]

Exactly, whereas fates clutter the overworld and in a way 'take over' the overworld for a period of time. That is not well suited to a permanent collaboration, and would have to be redesigned if put back into the game (at which point, why not just put the resources into a new event). Also, aren't the items on the mogstation? That seems like the easiest solution.

Ya sorry misread ur post, thought u said the opposite :P

[Kazrah]

Garo is permenant, and is not Final Fantasy. If speculation is also to be believed, monster hunter may also be permanent.

Pretty the only reason why as to both is probably due to the sheer amount of resources required for both of those events. I'm personally not a fan because it puts more attention on games not made by Square-Enix (and also because that Garo gear is ugly as sin), but I can understand that with all the work involved to make them happen that they would want to make them permanent.

[ManuelBravo]

Huh? Kind of make sense if they are temporary events. If you step back and look at the big picture they are temporary events to get publicity. Why should people who took their time to actually do the work be slapped in the face for those who were to lazy to do so. If people really want the items place them on mogstation. To those who lack common sense think about it the following ways. Why would those collaborations stay permanent if theya re ot tied to the main story and two, Do you really think Shantotto has nothing better to do than stay in this world rather than continue her research. Should Lightning be stuck in this world even though she has her own problems? No.

Now whole new rewards and events and rewards would be acceptable. Old ones no thank you.

[Con_Carne]

Kind of make sense if they are temporary events. If you step back and look at the big picture they are temporary events to get publicity. Why should people who took their time to actually do the work be slapped in the face for those who were to lazy to do so.

Lazy... I see how quickly ppl always judges. Not everyone were lazy (If I were, I wouldn't got the Yokai 2nd mount at the event's first time). Maybe some ppl could be lazy, but MAYBE (like me with the Shantotto event) some ppl started to play the game after the last time an event took place. Ppl who would like to play it not just for the rewards, but for the experience of the story. I could buy the Shantotto minion from MS yeah, but it would just be a doll delivered by a Moogle...

I'm asking to turn these collabs into permantent, just like the Garo, or how it looks the MH will be. I don't think collab should be the same word as "seasonal". If you read carefully, I tried to avoid saying the word "event". We already have the seasonal ones (Moonfire, Heavensturn, Hatching...), so I ask to make just for the collabs to be turned from events to permanent, with new rewards for those which rewards are already in MS.