Primal Belias?

[Rocl]

There's definitely some confusion overall with Belias in the game. Ridorana Belias and ARR Belias should be ... separate, I think. We know Sari is supposed to be one of the guys who fought Belias in ... Meracydia? I think it was--so he was definitely a Primal in the Third Astral Era. The "Elder Primal" designation seems to pretty much fall neatly in line with Primals from the age of Allag, so that's all fine. The Gigas from the Ridorana Belias fight are the same model as the Belias-Egi Tristan summons....whether this is a nod or something more interconnected we've yet to learn.

The Lucavi summoned from auracite, we've been told, are wholly different from Primals so by that logic the Belias[es] cannot be the same creature. I think when we enter Ridorana Ramza muses that Famfrit has appeared as a result of Ba'Gamnan running around with the Duma, right? So might it be that's when Lucavi Belias appears? During his ascent?

As for how Tristan got the requisite aether to summon a Belias-Egi, it's possible Ascian malarkey and the soulstone itself are the reasoning, I agree. I have to strongly disagree with the idea that Gougans summoned anything since isn't their inability to manipulate aether documented as one of the reasons they're candidates for Garlean predecessors? Tristan not knowing what Belias exactly was used to give a convenient excuse as to why it just looked like an Ifrit-Egi; that was the Primal HE knew of and was tainted by, so that's the one he could conjure most readily. Ridorana complicates this.

EDIT: I know this is a topic Moose has receipts on so his reply will definitely end up better! But I still think, as of now, they are separate entities, and there's been no definitive link besides the name and the Gigas/Egi model sharing... which definitely does imply some link but again, I'm not sure it's knowable thing right now.