Dangerous Areas

[BreyVoreas93]

@Valkyrie_Lenneth;
Let’s put words in the guys mouth, he said he liked the danger.....let’s reach for more please.

No one is saying gate jobs, he said he liked the danger and atmosphere. I would be pissed if they did that, what I am saying a mount, or perhaps some great glamour options for those who would be willing to traverse the zone. So many people are “dooming” this type of content. Why can’t this be an optional area, but within the overworld, and if you hate the idea and feel it’s annoying or tedious....don’t do it.

[BreyVoreas93]

I can assure you, after 5 years I’d rather run around in a large zone with multiple options of battle and potential death/reward , and see different things than run (inset any EX primal) for the 20millionth time attempting to get the same damn weapons I already have and a mount it takes 99 runs to get. That is not challenging that is tedious. So again, if you don’t like it don’t do it. There should be shit for everyone to do, not just casual players who enjoy really boring faceroll zones.

[aesteval]

You have content. You have more content coming. Go do that or go back to FFXI and stop trying to ruin other parts of the game for others.

[Tracewood]

Eureka had that perfect blend of danger but you could avoid it.

Yeah, it's not much fun getting killed as a low level, but as you get higher many of those low level enemies leave you alone and you can take on some stronger ones. ARR still had that sense of danger with mobs still aggroing you but as you get higher ilevel they're still a joke. Flying kills that sense of danger though.

Maybe they'd consider mini dungeons in the overworld where you can't fly but can use a mount and use that for MSQ and RQ activities?

[BreyVoreas93]

Eureka had that perfect blend of danger but you could avoid it.

Yeah, it's not much fun getting killed as a low level, but as you get higher many of those low level enemies leave you alone and you can take on some stronger ones. ARR still had that sense of danger with mobs still aggroing you but as you get higher ilevel they're still a joke. Flying kills that sense of danger though.

Maybe they'd consider mini dungeons in the overworld where you can't fly but can use a mount and use that for MSQ and RQ activities?

Now this would be something I would definitely see as a compromise. I think that could be very interesting.

[SomeRandomHuman]

You want a dangerous area? Walking into the hinterlands during HW early access was dangerous. There was an error in the map and there was a horde of like 20 nabroois herded together next to where it spawns you in. If you were unlucky and one saw you, you ended up getting hentai'd by all 20 of the little buggers and basically insta died.


Now that was a dangerous time indeed.

[Rufalus]

I would have liked some dangerous zones. I'm not trying to ruin the game for anyone. You could still have all of the zones that are required for msq be easy. But then there'd be some optional zones on the outskirts that place an item level sync on the whole zone and require either sneaking or fighting as a party to pass through, because some people like open world danger.

If you get deep enough there can be gathering nodes with special treasure which have a time restriction similar to maps that you can only collect once every 18 hours or something. It's an optional way to make money and collect extra rare items that pop if you're lucky. The danger makes it harder for bots to succeed, and because it's not instanced you can treasure hunt while queuing for other stuff.

[mikanana]

Limsa Lominsa at night during the weekend...

[Limecat]

The best part about dangerous areas in MMOs is getting to watch someone who doesn't know better wander into the kill zone and panic briefly before getting torn apart. The second best part is knowing what's in there yourself but having to go through anyway, and successfully making the silly-ass juke and dash to get out alive.

[Iscah]

The best part about dangerous areas in MMOs is getting to watch someone who doesn't know better wander into the kill zone and panic briefly before getting torn apart.

ARR has these, more or less. Take a wrong turn in the "beginner's area" of North Shroud and suddenly you've gone from facing down Lv3 mitelings to aggressive Lv25 banemites. (I have actually had to rescue a newbie from these before.) Or people attempt to navigate into the Sagolii Desert for their Lv30 summoner quest, and end up in Zanr'ak because they didn't notice the (admittedly poorly-mapped) safe passage.


The 10-extra-levels nature of the expansions loses these "distant goal" areas where you can be seeing dangerous high-level areas for a very long time before you are finally strong enough to venture into them.

I don't mind that once you *are* strong enough, they become easy - for so long you've stood on the edge thinking "I can't possibly enter that place", then you reach the point where you can, and then you keep getting stronger until the once-terrifying prospect of facing a Lv45 enemy is now laughably easy... but you remember that it wasn't always, and can see how far you've come from being a new adventurer.


Also, having done the ARR beast tribe quests just recently - for me it was incredibly simple since I used a Lv60 character and could just walk straight in without anything attacking me, but what was it like at the time when there was a Lv50 cap? You would have been fighting your way through lots of aggressive high-level enemies every time you went to complete a task, wouldn't you?

(I admit that's exactly why I gave up on pursuing the beast tribe quests while I was still playing through ARR and decided to wait until I overleveled my character. There are only so many times you can go looking for that pyromaniac kobold's pet bombs without cracking, and having to fight off enemies every time wasn't helping.)