Sexual harassment

[QT_Melon]

A few opinions in this thread support witch hunting a person that has yet to be found guilty, or how incapable the proper authorities are when it comes to handling such issues which means that the only solution is to take matters into your own hand more or less as a community.

Or how a person is considered a victim blamer because they place some responsibility on the victim. .

Rinse lather repeat. We already explained this to you a enough times. You keep bringing it up like no one saw your posts the first time. Trying to figure out if you honestly feel being repetitive makes the point valid or you're being a sea lion at this point.

Second. To address your first point. Both parties could seek help. Does one need to be committed of a crime for others to know or make a decision to associate with said person? If someone swears at you, do you call the police and then wait till one is found guilty? In the case of harassment people are just figuring out whether or not this is behavior they want to be around. Not if something needs to be taken to the cops. The other issue as to whether or not a crime was actually committed is for the courts.

[Rogatum]

Rinse lather repeat. We already explained this to you a enough times. You keep bringing it up like no one saw your posts the first time. Trying to figure out if you honestly feel being repetitive makes the point valid or you're being a sea lion at this point.

Second. To address your first point. Both parties could seek help. Does one need to be committed of a crime for others to know or make a decision to associate with said person? If someone swears at you, do you call the police and then wait till one is found guilty? In the case of harassment people are just figuring out whether or not this is behavior they want to be around. Not if something needs to be taken to the cops. The other issue as to whether or not a crime was actually committed is for the courts.

Their is a difference between not associating with someone and actively trying to run their name through the mud, seeking as many outside parties to black list and shame the person for something they may or may not have done. Secondly, the first part was aimed towards more so the person above me since I am simply answering why I started posting in the thread, just forgot to quote the person. I was not aimed towards you. That is my issue and concern, how easily people understand that the generally public does not have the information to capable to handle recovery of abuse and harassment, but they are capable of using used as a means to potentially ruin another persons life before they have been convicted of any crime.

Overall I have no issues with those that handle it behind closed doors, but those that bring the information to the public seeking community support as this thread has shown if you do not fall in line with what the victim claims to be true then you are considered a victim blamer and part of the problem. Also yes you have explained it many times, but I still do not see how trying to publicly shame a person is the best coarse of action, I do believe certain things should be handled outside of the public eye until everything can be confirmed since just as the general public are not trained to handle treatment, I do feel the general public is also not capable of looking past their emotional bias and look at all the information in an objective matter.

Realistically speaking if a person was to remain friends with someone that was accused of sexual harassment or any form of abuse and reserves judgment until more information and or is proven guilty would the community that has blacklisted or shamed the accused think all that highly of a person that remains friends with the person until all the facts are present? I can tell you from experience they really do not. For the most part you are considered scum for associating with the person. I do understand that in the legal sense a great deal of these issues are extremely hard to prove thus putting those that have to deal with it in a tough spot, but does that make it right to run someone else out based off the words of another? That is what a few people in this thread support and that scares me.

I do find it funny how you refer to me as a sea lion, since I doubt that is a complement, what if I personally could not handled such a comment. While I do not understand your opinion or even agree with it, does not make it any less valid.

Always nice to see my hilarious teenage stupidity come back to haunt me 14 or so years later.

That is nothing like this - unless you count the vile, vile messages I fielded for months after the event, and simply blocking people (and hitting block cap within the first ten minutes) didn't stop those messages from happening. Please don't try to lessen someone's struggle just because you don't understand. In the two weeks following my return to Gedran posting that, I had over two thousand exceptionally crude, sexual, and downright threatening whispers to deal with. Some enterprising individuals did not just find out the name of my alts, they found out my e-mail addresses and even my physical home address. They found out my phone number, they found out my school(s). I had kids and teachers at school who knew about the event. I had several communities, forums that I just RP'd on, and chatrooms that knew. That event spread across the internet and even into the real world like wild-fire. There was no getting away from it, and once it hit the real world, absolutely no blocking people.

Sometimes, 'just block and move on' is impossible. Stop telling people to sit down and shut up when they feel uncomfortable, it's archaic behavior that shouldn't have a place in any community worth being a part of. While everyone's threshold for tolerance is different, when people cross into the lines of what sexual harassment (or harassment at all), they should be held accountable if the victim chooses to outcry.

If you don't feel harassed, that's great! I, personally, have a pretty high tolerance (especially after the aforementioned event) and it takes a lot to make me uncomfortable, especially given my hobbies. That doesn't mean that someone else who is harassed by definition has to be okay with it.

Not going to lie I did get many laughs out of the story when I saw it featured in video. For what it is worth it does suck people kept bothering over something no one else was meant to see.