Sexual harassment

[DDkiki]

Sexual harassment in mmorpg. Lol. Just blacklist ppl and stop being spoiled snowflake. This with all half-nakes miqotes running around looks like silly joke.

Really reminds me of Inotep, Artemisa and Gedran story in wow.

[KisaiTenshi]

Sexual harassment in mmorpg. Lol. Just blacklist ppl and stop being spoiled snowflake. This with all half-nakes miqotes running around looks like silly joke.

Really reminds me of Inotep, Artemisa and Gedran story in wow.

Uh, no, this was from a Community Leader.

Google "Prominent Final Fantasy 14 community leader accused of blackmail and sexual harassment by over a dozen women"

[DDkiki]

Uh, no, this was from a Community Leader.

Google "Prominent Final Fantasy 14 community leader accused of blackmail and sexual harassment by over a dozen women"

Read, laughed.

[Endeleon]

Read, laughed.

Then you are part of the problem.

[MrKusakabe]

Sexual harassment in mmorpg. Lol. Just blacklist ppl and stop being spoiled snowflake. This with all half-nakes miqotes running around looks like silly joke.

Really reminds me of Inotep, Artemisa and Gedran story in wow.

Despite I also grew a thick skin (or basically using common sense) towards people that do not even know me I think your response is somewhat irritating.
Just because you live in a ghetto where bikes getting stolen everyday it does not make every single theft less worse.
Instead of going "spoiled snowflake" (what does that even have to do with that) you could've worded it differently, sounding like you're one of those spitting poison occassionally and think that's funny because "itz just da internetz".
It's not. And I hope the law for the cyberspace will be set higher soon.

Just in real life, I would not want to be called or shown disgusting, disturbing or annoying things every chat I enter a virtual public place.

[Mikhaill]

Sexual harassment in mmorpg. Lol. Just blacklist ppl and stop being spoiled snowflake.

You realise people have ulterior motives and it's especially hidden well on the internet.
There are desperate, sad people on the internet and things can go south, fast.
It doesn't usually stop just from looking at someone's cat girl.
Some crazed pervert can get so indulged in you and then become
a stalker and it gets worse. Friends and families are involved, hacking, threats or anything.
Your response is really just...wow.

[Elamys]

You realise people have ulterior motives and it's especially hidden well on the internet.
There are desperate, sad people on the internet and things can go south, fast.
It doesn't usually stop just from looking at someone's cat girl.
Some crazed pervert can get so indulged in you and then become
a stalker and it gets worse. Friends and families are involved, hacking, threats or anything.
Your response is really just...wow.

It's really hilarious to me when people think it's that easy to walk away from it. Like, I had a guy harassing me in WoW, and I finally told him off and ignored him, and whenever I logged in on my alts on another server, he would have his friends harass me too. I ended up having to leave that server. Even if you cut out the harasser/abuser they can still negatively effect your life. And in cases like mine GMs aren't always that helpful. They didn't have chat logs of this guy telling his friends to harass me, because those conversations were outside of the game.

Another situation I ran into was with a guy I was very close friends with and was an integral part of our friend circle. It was just a normal friendship at first until he started getting really creepy and stalkery and abusive. And when I did things like remove him from my friends list and change my name he would just get that information from others. I was scared to speak out against it or anything like that unless I risk losing my other friends. Plus, this guy knew things about my real life, because I had known him for a long time and I really trusted him. So I was also scared that he'd lash out at me IRL because, let's be honest, in the digital age it's not hard at all to find somebody, and he had a rough idea of where I lived and my name which was probably all he would have needed. I was lucky enough that those friends chose to side with me (well, most of them) but not everyone is that lucky. :/

And even when you DO blacklist or ignore people it doesn't stop them from harassing you. Constantly making alts, or even just following you around in character, since blacklisting a person doesn't hide their character from you. And specific to this game, it won't stop people from entering your house.

So, is protecting yourself and taking care of yourself important? Yeah. Maybe don't walk down that alley where five people were murdered alone at night with nothing to defend yourself. But even if you did and something happened, it doesn't make it your fault.

[Mikhaill]

It's really hilarious to me when people think it's that easy to walk away from it. Like, I had a guy harassing me in WoW, and I finally told him off and ignored him, and whenever I logged in on my alts on another server, he would have his friends harass me too.

See? Everyone knows the "Girls don't exist online!" Joke?
There's a good damn reason for it. I hide it too, hell, a lot of us girls do...
There's not to say the male's don't get bugged too such as OP, but females on the internet?
You all think we are a rare breed? We're God dang hiding for our lives from nasty perverts who won't leave us alone.
I've personally not be into no extreme case but the moment people know my gender that's it for me.
If they start asking too many things, too soon and randomly showing me or telling their sob stories, I know to run.
I rarely ever mention it, and only now to prove a point. Some people aren't lucky enough and they're in too deep../

People laughing at this makes me sick. I actually reported DDkiki for his response already.
Sexual Harassment ain't funny, in no form at all.

[REPROBEAN_CHILD]

Sexual harassment in mmorpg. Lol. Just blacklist ppl and stop being spoiled snowflake.

Coming from someone who HATES sjws and PC culture, I detest comments like this. This is not directed to you personally, but you're trivializing what could amount to a major issue. I have a friend who once "dated" a guy through the game. They joined the FC and discord together, so they became a became part of our circle of friends. Eventually, she broke up with him and he got kicked out, stating that he started acting weird around her. I didn't know the full details at the time, so when he started talking to me out of the blue, I didn't think much of it. I was also somewhat forgiving and didn't want the guy to feel alone. Then I learned that he had been stalking her in-game, contacted her phone to the point she replaced her number and he tried reaching out to her on her social media. The dude got obsessed, after just a couple weeks of interaction. At that point, I cut him off too, especially after he told me "We're friends and friends always look out for each other " Even a year later, after she was in a new relationship, he STILL tried to message her one day. It was also likely he knew where she lived, so it became a matter of safety.

It's so easy to say "just block and blacklist them. Problem solved." It's a totally different ball game when someone actively waits to see if you'll show up online. Being told that "your character is pretty," is NOT harassment. Being actively pursued by someone, after it was made it clear you want nothing to do with them, is.

[Penthea]

Sexual harassment in mmorpg. Lol. Just blacklist ppl and stop being spoiled snowflake.

This attitude is exactly why victims are slow to come forward.

Blacklisting doesn't always work. Some are unfortunate enough to come across those who make alts, buy extra accounts, make several skype/discord accounts, and use their manipulative ways to get personal information such as email addresses from mutual friends. It can be especially difficult to get a player to leave you alone if the majority of their abuse was done outside the game. GM's can't act on information that isn't from the game.

Though it seems that this sort of harassment is typically done by guys, girls sometimes do it too. I encountered two who did to friends of mine, one who engaged in the stalker behaviour in the above paragraph. Harassment doesn't discriminate. It could happen to anyone.

I have personally experienced harassment completely based on my gender. There have been many incidents in which players who barely acknowledged my existence did a 180 when they found out I'm female, and bombarded me with offers of help, gifts, often inappropriate compliments and very probing conversation. Others were more clever. They slowly crept into being my friend before using claims of depression as a tool to get me to pity them enough to be their girlfriend.

These attempts never worked on me long enough to trap me but that didn't mean I found them comical or easy to deal with. Most guys just dropped the act and left me alone as soon as they saw it wasn't working, but a few felt the need to get revenge on me for daring to say no which usually resulted in rumours and exclusion. It's not easy to dispel rumours when you're the newer person in a community. The pressure of feeling disliked got to me enough that I left.

As a result of this I am very guarded around players I don't know, which is very frustrating because it can give the wrong impression and I'm painfully aware of it when it does. However the flip side is my experiences lent me knowledge in how to spot the signs of predatory and anti-social behaviour, and how to deal with it. Which is very handy to have as a fc leader.

All this being said the majority of player encounters in my very long mmo career have been mundane or good experiences. But I'd be lying if I said I went more than a year without encountering or hearing about someone who preys on other people. It is sadly pretty common.