You don't compare it to Fire 4. You compare it to any other option in Ice phase where you have to wait on an MP tick after refreshing Thunder, outside having a TCloud proc. Which would be Blizzard 1 or ScatheI also have a mixed feeling about Foul for instance (not AoE wise, perfectly fine on this regard), but 715 potency (650+10% from enochian) every 30sec when I literally spam FireIV doing 554 potency (280x1.8x+1.1). It's not even one extra FireIV. (altough I'm not including casting time.
180 vs 100/200 vs 650.
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