Samurai question

[Sylvain]

The point is that it does a bit more dps and while it isn't ground breaking dps gain, it is still something that can be used within burst windows to increase its effectiveness.

Altough I agree there are quite a lot of abilities like these that don't feel all that great because the gain is rather negligible. (if that's what you're referring too when you ask "what's the point if it barely makes me do more dmg


For instance with the NIN, Bhavacakra with 600 potency vs Hellfrog with 400 potency.
At least the cd isn't all that long so it's not so bad but it's definitely not something to be overly excited when you use it. It's basically 200 extra potency every 50s.

I also have a mixed feeling about Foul for instance (not AoE wise, perfectly fine on this regard), but 715 potency (650+10% from enochian) every 30sec when I literally spam FireIV doing 554 potency (280x1.8x+1.1). It's not even one extra FireIV. (altough I'm not including casting time
Even including cast time, Foul has ( honestly wouldn't mind having it do a bit more dmg single target.

However the example I just gave do make a lot of dps difference if you ignore them, which isn't the case with 2shintens vs Guren.

[Kabooa]

I also have a mixed feeling about Foul for instance (not AoE wise, perfectly fine on this regard), but 715 potency (650+10% from enochian) every 30sec when I literally spam FireIV doing 554 potency (280x1.8x+1.1). It's not even one extra FireIV. (altough I'm not including casting time.

You don't compare it to Fire 4. You compare it to any other option in Ice phase where you have to wait on an MP tick after refreshing Thunder, outside having a TCloud proc. Which would be Blizzard 1 or Scathe

180 vs 100/200 vs 650.