Selling Ultimate Weapon Ultima Is Apparently Not Against the ToS

[Menriq]

Not on that site, but to be honest, would I need to check? DRG dropped meteor in the middle, just enough to cover 100% of the safe spot. I doubt someone like that would have cleared it.



Yes, I did. Time stamps and everything. This was like 2 months ago.

If they dropped meteor just enough to cover 100% of the safe spot, it could be they were just trolling as well.

[Alleo]

Its against the ToS because sharing account information is against the ToS, not because of RMT.

They are doing both. Real money trade by selling content for money (which SE did post that any selling for money is against the ToS) and then account sharing to clear it for them.

[Sotaris]

Mmm this is a grey area. If I’m going to be away on work and I let my nephew on my account to play while I’m gone, is this wrong? How people who play let their wives, gf, husband, bf, etc log in with their account? I dunno I know what you are getting at but for arguments sake I’m bringing up these counter points

If you want to be anal about it, that all is account sharing and tos breaking.

[Kurando]

I found this article about how Blizzard are going to deal with players using the PF (or Group Finder) to advertise sales of content etc in WoW. Eventually SE might need to consider doing something similar.

https://blizzardwatch.com/2018/07/02...inder-ads/amp/

[Aviars]

I found this article about how Blizzard are going to deal with players using the PF (or Group Finder) to advertise sales of content etc in WoW. Eventually SE might need to consider doing something similar.

https://blizzardwatch.com/2018/07/02...inder-ads/amp/

SE probably should do the same. Gil is a loophole for RMT. You can just advertise it for gil then make a deal for real money outside the game.

[Kurando]

Perhaps SE should just have a separate tab in the PF for people that want to sell content with Gil or in game items BUT the party cannot be cross world. As we all know you can't trade Gil that way, so directing buyers to discord etc clearly has RMT intentions.

[Aviars]

They should just not allow the advertising period. Like I said gil is a convenient loophole for people who want to RMT.

And does such a thing harm the game as a whole? Preventing people from throwing money around to complete content?

By doing this you cripple the rmt that happens in the game while only making the cheaters angry. You are also taking steps towards making the people with completed content more credible.

Only good things come from doing this.

[-BlueGreen-]

Here's the part that gets me about SE. They go and remind us of this: https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...d5018ee8fc7b01

And in particular:

Should you witness actions related to RMT, such as advertisements within the game leading to external services via Say, Shout, Tell, and Yell, you can report them... To report RMT related actions outside of chat, you can visit the [Support Desk] menu

(emphasis mine)

By "outside of chat", I'd think the party finder is the main thing they're talking about, although they're probably using broad wording to cover any other cases. Discord counts as an external service, doesn't it? Couldn't the "Special Task Force" simply run a kind of sting operation? Just pose as a player trying to buy a run, follow the Discord info from the PF, and the moment RMT is discussed, bring down the ban hammer?

[Linx0r]

If you want to be anal about it, that all is account sharing and tos breaking.

And? What is being done about this? Nada. So, why should anything be done about people selling runs? It all comes down to money or currency transfer. How will SE prove a rl cash payment from player to player? I don't support any of this, but for argument sake, throwing it out there for discussion. It actually would be nice to know what type of RMT is being dealt with during updates

[Jijifli]

And? What is being done about this? Nada. So, why should anything be done about people selling runs? It all comes down to money or currency transfer. How will SE prove a rl cash payment from player to player? I don't support any of this, but for argument sake, throwing it out there for discussion. It actually would be nice to know what type of RMT is being dealt with during updates

The only RMT I'm pretty sure is even dealt with is the say chat spamming bots parked at MB's.

Buyers aren't banned at risk of losing costumers. Bots that farm the currency aren't banned because risk of losing customers. Seriously, look at the amount of pople they say they punish for botting? No where NEAR the amount of bots there are. I can count more bots I see in the daily on Balmung than bots they've banned since they started telling us how many.

So since nothing's being done about those, are gathering bots okay? is BUYING RMT okay, so long as it's not selling?