You know, I actually miss the clown-car slaughterfest that was 8v8. You could just throw yourselves at the other team's axes/fireballs/etc. and it didn't even matter. It was just good, crazy fun. 4v4 PVP now is so much more formal and strict, although it's less so now than it was ... now it's just a button-mashing-fest to see which healer can outlast the other.