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    Aviars Lightsworn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    If you made good arguments, I wouldn't accuse you of twisting my words. Instead, you do the following...


    I believe you are wrong as well. Does that mean you are twisting my words? I guess so haha



    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    They are literally the same model but with very minor variations. The Legacy Chocobo has the tattoo on its beak and slightly darkened feathers while the Ultima weapons take the old ARR relics, paint them silver and add particle effects. Since you're seemingly on board with them being different, it shouldn't be an issue if the two PvP mounts had reskins with similar changes made available elsewhere.
    Again what makes a legacy chocobo completely unique is the tatoo. You can't call other chocobos reskins of the legacy chocobo. That doesn't make sense. The only thing similar is the silhouette. At that point you wouldn't even call them reskins.




    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Except the Feast released before many of the more recent exclusive changes. Therefore, they actually moved away from that model. And Ultimate has no exclusive rewards. They are obtainable at any time, and as we've established, are simply reskins of existing items.
    So what if the feast released earlier? That is a non-factor. The fact they have not changed it should be a memo to you that they are going forward with the system as is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    What future content? Let's review Stormblood from 4.1 onward, when Ultimate released.

    Eureka: Amemos, Sigmascape, Perform, Rival Wings, Canals, Rabanastre, Ridorana and Eureka: Pagos all offered nothing exclusive. Even Coil itself removed the weekly limitation, thus you need only finish the content at any time to obtain its reward. So, please, tell me where this shift to exclusivity is evident because no major content has anything that cannot be obtained whenever the player so desires... except PvP.
    Again you are not getting my argument. You complain SE is not being consistent in how they run their game. Therefore you should be against anything Se does that strays from whatever cookiecutter path you claim you support. Because you love consistency. I think I understand why you like using the "twisting words" buzzword. You seem to do it to me a lot.


    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    That's a disingenuous comparison. For one, contents are far more readily available and don't require anything beyond your time. People have won despite showing only basic drawing skills whereas top 100 necessitates you compete at the highest PvP level and do so immediately due to the asinine way in which the rank system is handled. The rewards for the content are simply a cute little participation reward. Mounts are perceived differently, especially when the PvE community asked for both and they locked them in PvP content. It's not a reward for PvPers but a plead to try and get PvE players to play Feast.
    You don't seem to understand the art contest then. It is about providing the best concept. And what you consider basic is your subjective opinion. It is still a contest that choose the TOP submissions and rewards them. Top 100 in the Feast is the same way. They are both contests that reward the top participants. If anything is disingenuous it's you claiming the winners in the art contest do not deserve winning. At the end of the day it is the same thing. If you can't support Feast operating in a similar fashion to the art contest you are contradicting yourself. End of story,




    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Probably because I have no idea what you're referring with the silly hash tags. I don't recall SE ever offering free shipping on their merchandise store, unless you mean the whole minion debacle.
    There was recently a promotion at a event where they offered #freeship or free shipping for merchandise being offered at the event. It just so turns out this wasn't true and the store tried to claim it was only a $8 discount. The community rose up and complained that they were going back on them saying it was going to be free shipping and eventually the store honored the free shipping.

    This is where I question why people will force SE to honor free shipping but will try to get SE to make top 100 rewards not top 100 rewards after they explicitly said they were top 100 rewards only.

    Just pointing out inconsistency in the community. They should be DEFENDING top 100 rewards to keep them as they are.

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    Last edited by Aviars; 06-25-2018 at 12:46 PM.