[Request] Add alternative methods to getting old Feast rewards

[Aviars]

Saying someone is wrong because you do not understand is combative, you could have easily asked me to explain further if you did not understand my question

Then I could easily tell you the same thing. You don't understand and are wrong. Also why would I ask you anything if I think I am right? That doesn't make sense, you are claiming a high ground on a foundation that does not make sense.

Right and wrong does not always go together with emotion. You can view something is wrong without it being based on emotion.

Realizing something is wrong requires you to have empathy for those who are wronged and you also feeling wronged when it happens to you.

I would agree due to current agreement any change would be wrong.

Great you actually agree with me on the matter. If you agree that it is wrong then why even argue this point about emotion?

Now the question remains which you do you feel SE is within their right to change or alter the agreement? I do think that if SE were to restructure how rewards are distributed in PvP it should be for future rewards only and not past rewards since that goes against the agreement / precedent they established before in the previous seasons.

If that is what you are saying then if SE does not want to move forward with top 100 rewards in the future while keeping the past items restricted like they said, then I wouldn't have a issue with that beyond lamenting over the fact that they got rid of a system that rewards skill. As long as past rewards are treated as they were claimed to be treated that is fine.

To your previous question on if they can alter the agreement for past items, absolutely not.

Feelings has very little to do with something when an agreement is broken.

They aren't breaking a agreement if they change it for future seasons, if they remove the option for future top 100 rewards then they are just changing the system. Breaking a agreement for past rewards is different and would be breaking a promise that has already been in effect and should be enforced.

Would it be safe to assume that altered versions of previous season rewards would be fair game if SE were to change they way rewards were handled? Being as they are not the same reward.

Nope. You seem to have a different view on what is different or not. You should leave it at that.

I do not agree with this, I do not believe one needs empathy to understand an action is wrong. I understand breaking the law is wrong in the sense that it is not my best interest to break them. Empathy plays no role it is more so an act of self preservation.

Understanding the concept of wrong in the first place requires you to feel and have emotion in the first place.

Definition of Wrong:

unjust, dishonest, or immoral.

To understand wrong you have to feel that way. Immorality is based on feeling. If you don't feel then you can't understand the concept of wronging other people.

My social skills are lacking, normally when having a discussion with someone if there is confusion as to what is being said it leads to potential hostile exchanges. So I was shown if I do not understand something someone is saying asking them to explain instead of being combative leads more positive result and fosters a healthier discussion. Since miscommunication is often a primary reason for a misunderstanding. Going based off the comment regarding the high ground I guess this misunderstanding in this moment just boils down to that fact you feel this is a debate and I view this as a discussion. That is why I removed those parts from my post, was never my intention to get into a debate with you, just to gain understanding. At the start I was hostile, but watching the thread I figured all the hostility would simply halt the discussion, which would be a shame since the topic in my opinion does open up interesting avenues of conversation.

There was no misunderstanding. You equate saying someone is wrong with being combative. You also claimed that I did not understand and that I should ask you to explain because you think you are right.

Anyways here is the definition of debate

1.
a formal discussion on a particular topic in a public meeting or legislative assembly, in which opposing arguments are put forward.

I mean if you want to split hairs over whether it is a debate or discussion, they are the same thing, at least in this case you have a opposing viewpoint towards me, it is a debate whether you like it or not. If you want a true discussion then find someone who agrees with you on every single point. There is nothing more to say about this.

I also will say this, I won't be responding to you if you edit your past post to respond beyond this point. If you can't make a new post and in so doing make it clear you are responding to a new post of mine then I won't debate/discuss with you further. Have a nice day.

[Reinha]

They aren't breaking a agreement if they change it for future seasons, if they remove the option for future top 100 rewards then they are just changing the system. Breaking a agreement for past rewards is different and would be breaking a promise that has already been in effect and should be enforced.

Would you consider it breaking a promise if they recolored or reskinned some older top 100 rewards and made those recolors/reskins available in some other content? This was mentioned by the OP as one solution and it has happened to many rewards already.

[Gospel]

Would you consider it breaking a promise if they recolored or reskinned some older top 100 rewards and made those recolors/reskins available in some other content? This was mentioned by the OP as one solution and it has happened to many rewards already.

It's not breaking a promise because they never said it to begin with. Not once. Not ever. In terms of Feast rewards they have always been vague. The only thing that we have ever had any info to go by is that they said during live letter around Season 4 when they were asked about it, they mentioned they would cycle in rewards at some point in time. We don't know if that means the recolors every other season like we've been getting or if they literally mean to bring back all the old rewards? There was never a promise they made to players saying they were exclusive or that we'd never see them again.

If anybody can find a direct quote or link to a video of Yoshi or a Developer saying otherwise then I'd love to see it. Maybe then these threads can finally die since everybody will actually officially know S/E's stance on the matter.