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    Quote Originally Posted by Aviars View Post
    If me telling you your question had conflicting statements and didn't make sense, then there isn't much I can do. Telling people they are wrong I guess is combative?

    Regardless of that, you stating something is wrong is inserting feeling. If something is wrong then you feel that it is wrong. And yes, SE has made it abundantly clear that these rewards are exclusive to top 100 players and time exclusive through numerous blogs and announcements and is still true to this very day.

    Also, I find your questions rather rhetorical. Would breaking a promise be wrong? I think we both know the answer to that question.

    You can view something is wrong without it being based in emotion. As in this example SE made an agreement or set a precedent with the PvP community regarding the rewards. I would agree due to current agreement any change would be wrong. Now the question remains do you feel SE is within their right to change or alter the agreement? I do think that if SE were to restructure how rewards are distributed in PvP it should be for future rewards only and not past rewards since that goes against the agreement / precedent they established before in the previous seasons. The question itself has very little with them breaking a promise more so do you think SE is within their rights to altar the agreement for future seasons.


    Quote Originally Posted by Aviars View Post

    If that is what you are saying then if SE does not want to move forward with top 100 rewards in the future while keeping the past items restricted like they said, then I wouldn't have a issue with that beyond lamenting over the fact that they got rid of a system that rewards skill. As long as past rewards are treated as they were claimed to be treated that is fine.
    So we are in agreement that SE has the right to alter how they distribute rewards for future seasons, as long they they adhere to the agreement from the previous seasons and do not make the rewards mentioned that would only be awarded to those whom were able to obtain top 100 available to non top 100 players? Would it be safe to assume that altered versions of previous season rewards would be fair game if SE were to change they way rewards were handled? Being as they are not the same reward.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aviars View Post
    Realizing something is wrong requires you to have empathy for those who are wronged and you also feeling wronged when it happens to you.
    I do not agree with this, I do not believe one needs empathy to understand an action is wrong. I understand breaking the law is wrong in the sense that it is not my best interest to break them. Empathy plays no role it is more so an act of self preservation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aviars View Post
    Then I could easily tell you the same thing. You don't understand and are wrong. Also why would I ask you anything if I think I am right? That doesn't make sense, you are claiming a high ground on a foundation that does not make sense.
    My social skills are lacking, normally when having a discussion with someone if there is confusion as to what is being said it leads to potential hostile exchanges. So I was shown if I do not understand something someone is saying asking them to explain instead of being combative leads more positive result and fosters a healthier discussion. Since miscommunication is often a primary reason for a misunderstanding. Going based off the comment regarding the high ground I guess this misunderstanding in this moment just boils down to that fact you feel this is a debate and I view this as a discussion. That is why I removed those parts from my post, was never my intention to get into a debate with you, just to gain understanding. At the start I was hostile, but watching the thread I figured all the hostility would simply halt the discussion, which would be a shame since the topic in my opinion does open up interesting avenues of conversation.

    Edited out some empty platitudes.
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    Last edited by Rogatum; 06-24-2018 at 06:36 PM.