[Request] Add alternative methods to getting old Feast rewards

[Alleo]

I am fine if trophies and maybe titles stay exclusive but mounts/minions and maybe even the gear should be availeable through other PVP means. Not only is the top 100 a really small amount thus a lot of people will never get it, no matter how much they try, but we also have no rank decay thus people will just sit on their wins thus taking away the chance for others to get high but there is also at least one FC that sells PVP ranks..and if there is one, we probably have a couple more..(and lets not talk about PVP cheaters) All of this makes it really hard to even get the reward and I am quite sure that people would surely hate it too if raids for example only had mounts for the first 100 people that cleared it, or only weapons for a very small amount.

In the end this reward structure probably is not a good incentive at all and imo just means that SE throws all the money and time out for mounts that are only meant for a couple of people but were wished by PVE players too.

If anything they should add MORE exclusive. Players should be rewarded for being exceptional, add titles for world/server first in pve, or for the earliest 20 or so clears per server. Add exclusive reward to Palace of the Dead in some form....You can already earn 99.5% of what's in this game just by playing super casually, they should add more stuff to ignite some competition in other forms of play.

I have nothing against exklusive rewards if they are not time gated or limited in number. And that is imo the problem with the PVP ones. They are both. You can mostly just get them in a certain season and if you are on a certain rank. Ultimate for example and all the weapons behind it are fine for me because someone could try Ultimate in 2 years and the rewards would still be there. Rewards with a limited amount are not fine as long as cheating, selling and using alt characters exist..I could already see it..New Ultimate where only the first four groups will get anything...thus you have a world first that just go into this with their alt characters or sell it fast to others to get more money and everyone else that also did a great amount of work and great skill and beat it afterwards gets nothing..thus a lot of people would probably not even do it out of protest..PVP is the same. There is no rank decay, you have cheaters and sellings and people even use their alts to get the mounts..mounts that someone else could have gotten on their main..Something like that just brings out the worst in some of the players that will try to do everything to get as many of those limited mounts as possible..

[swiss_Momo]

also how about making older rewards available via a new currency you only get from ranked feast, on a tight weekly cap. So players have a reason to play x number of games every week throughout the season instead of just trying to rush to the top in week 1

[Magic-Mal]

I'd much rather they change the reward system to allow me to pick the mount I win after a season is over. What if I don't want the Garlean chair thing? If I could pick what I wanted, say the original Hellhound or Eagleeye outfit, I'd have more incentive to queue. As it stands, I only play Ranked Feast out of boredom and filling challenge logs because the queues are faster. I couldn't care less if I don't win top 100 because I don't like the reward.

If everyone could choose which mount they wanted then more people would probably play.

They also seriously need to stop adding rewards unrelated to Feast at all, into Feast. It's a cheap bait tactic. The Hellhounds mounts, minion, and armor set could've been Void raid drops but they're not. They have no business in Feast. Scientist guy's chair could've been a MSQ reward(should've, actually) but it's not. It has no business in Feast.

Season 8 is here now and we haven't gotten a single Feast-Related reward since what? Season 2?

[Riardon]

They need to put them as Wolf Mark rewards after a period of time.
Wolf Marks are useless once you get the skins you want.
This will give incentive to people to play more Frontlines and PvP content.

[oLLiCS]

Why do we have to state it over and over again. Feast is a competition. NOT a grind.

Also I always see the same datacenter complain about queue times. Aether and Chaos (especially Chaos) don't have this problem. At peak times it pops almost instantly and if not instantly then it probably will within next 8mins (Diamond tier excluded). It almost reminds me of housing where people complain they can't get a house because of the overpopulated server they're playing on.

Most of you don't even know the feeling what it's like to see for example the season 1 coat. "True" Feast players don't want it to be handed on a silver plate to them. They want to earn it. Not by a grind but by pure competition. Buying it via wolf collars is a grind and to people saying wolf marks...man sorry but you have no word in this if you're suggesting wolf marks instead of wolf collars and I'm convinced you don't even know what wolf collars are.

Last but not least I have to tell something to you people out there who think you will never be able to get placed in Top100. Previous seasons and especially the last 2 seasons have proven that new players who are willing to learn how medals work, how to communicate, how to burst, how to LoS and so on, those newcomers did get good and placed Top100. Our PvP community is small. Most of us know eachother and we appreciate every new player who shares our passion with Feast.

[Titor]

To be fair 1.0 was a different game, and such rewards were given to those that played said game so semantically speaking it was not FFXIV:ARR. So it is not really wrong to say that no other time gated rewards are in the game outside those that were attached to some outside promotional code or something. Though I would all be for having those items back in game.

3.x pvp was also entirely different than pvp now. To the point it doesnt even feel the same.

[alimdia]

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Nothing you says changes the fact that only 100 people can earn it, it doesn't matter how many new people try to play it when you're limited to a grand total of 100 people and then it's gone forever. You seem to enjoy the game mode for what it is despite being probably the worst system in the entire game (and the worst class balance to top it), so why do you need exclusive timed rewards when no other game mode has them? If a Hellhound was reskinned 1 year after being released in the feast how would that change your year old achievement?

[Aviars]

3.x pvp was also entirely different than pvp now. To the point it doesnt even feel the same.

People don't want the game to change.... when it is convenient for them. When faced with a hurdle they feel they cannot hope to jump they either attempt to change the rules and make the hurdle lower or maybe even cheat in the end.


This is why it is so baffling to me. There is a extreme hatred in this game for cheating and rmt, rightfully so. Currently there is a huge scandle about Ultimate cheating and rmt. People getting rewards they either did not work for or cheated to make it easier for them. People are really upset about it.

So why we have people insist on making TOP 100 rewards available to everyone for nothing is beyond me. They are basically asking for SE to cheat for them. If people cannot get top 100 then frankly they do not deserve top 100 rewards period. The bar has been set. Either get top 100 for what you want or accept the fact that not everything in this game is made for you, pretty simple.

Even as we speak, SE is going to reward top teams in Light Party with Fanfest tickets to play in championship tournament being held at Fanfest. Are people going to now demand that SE put fanfest tickets in the gold saucer cause it is only fair? I sincerely hope not.

[Ruru_Nayu]

Alright see it this way.
If you yourself have been placed in the top 100 and got your rewards wouldn't you be happy about that?
Yes ofcourse you would.
And then imagine theese rewards that you had to fight for in a compedetive environment are just free for everyone,
would it make you go what the actual f***?
Yep. Totally.

Theese rewards are meant to be exclusive and if you want them yourself get out there and fight for them!

[SilverObi]

"What do you mean there's crafted versions of Coil gear? That totally invalidates the struggle of getting the REAL gear from the fights!"
"People shouldn't be able to get titles or drops from unsynced content because they didn't actually earn it like we did."
"Buying the moogle costume off the mogstation completely makes purchasing it from FanFest pointless!"

How many people actually care if something they earned in the past becomes easier to obtain or available from another means? It doesn't invalidate the effort you spent to get it initially and it certainly doesn't take it away from you. Some of the arguments against this idea are so riddled with emotion and strawmanning it's hilarious.

Hell this situation happened in XI when Abyssea was added as content and the ability to level to cap was made far faster/easier. Cue the outcry of "real" players saying nah nah you didn't earn those levels like we did (also like when PotD was added in here). Honestly they should also re-release the digital bonuses that came with real life purchases, I know I won't get cranky if someone has the postmoogle even though they didn't "earn" it by spending money on the plush.