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    Quote Originally Posted by Aviars View Post
    You were trying to refute my argument that real life and video games shouldn't be compared because "it's just a game." But now you are also claiming that you would feel the same way about irl as you do with the game. Please champ.

    Mind stating what the negative effects are? Why will people leave the game if not the games toughest content being considered illegitimate and diluting the achievement of players? You keep saying there is a negative effect but keep claiming that you will be unaffected by it. You can't claim a negative and then claim people shouldn't feel affected by it.

    And you will somehow say the first place trophy should be for everyone? Hah
    First I was simply saying it was not a fair comparison, because the reality it is a game the comparisons are not equal. when I mentioned my position regarding IRL I was simply stating that is my own personal view I follow be in-game or outside. People leave the game for various reasons though I do feel at the core the baseline reason is lack of enjoyment. Many things can factor into why a player stops to enjoy something could be lack of interest, or feeling cheated. As I mentioned in the other thread how you feel is how you feel, but in my eyes no change would inherently detract from enjoyment itself. Hard for me to explain, but I do not view my enjoyment as the same as your enjoyment. So what you find fun, I might not so a change to a system does not inherently detract from enjoyment as a whole since a change itself does not come with a positive or negative outcome by itself. That outcome is based around the perfection of others.
    Can we honestly say for certain that if they did not make the items obtainable through differing means it would not positive outcome for the game mode itself? Either way we tried the exclusive model and feast queues get slower with each passing season. Granted that could be for a couple of reasons, but maybe it is time SE to try something different.


    I never stated or meant to imply that you should not feel slighted by a change, since as I mentioned in the other thread and I think in this also (they bleed together) how you feel about something is 100% legitimate. My issue is that you are painting your feelings as the general consensus. That is why I say RMT, and cheating have shown to have a negative impact on a games health, and that for the most part is a agreed upon concusses but for me personally I have never let factors like that bother me because I do not let them. I mean I played Archage for the longest time because I enjoyed the game despite the cheaters, bug, p2w aspects.

    You understand what I am saying? That is why I feel it is a choice to let an outside force have an impact on ones accomplishment. It is hard to me to see how it is not a choice since clearly not everyone feels the same way if the did we would not be discussion.

    Also yeah I would be okay with trophies being obtainable with MGP for all I care.
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