Player skill level classifications

[Hamada]

With all due respect the argument "some people commit too much time to this game" does nothing to defend "all hardcore players commit too much time to this game"... I see where you went with it but it really does nothing to back up Kisai's 'point' if that had been your intent. Plenty of people do very well at FFXIV without missing out on another facet of life.

I was not backing up Kisai's point, more explaining what they truly meant. I repeat myself, I disagree that all hardcore players = the extreme they said, I am also in disagreement they implied the friend I have also does that. I simply said some people can overcomit to this game by spending too much time on it, and how much that means varies from person to person. With my example, they are overcomiting because they do not want to be spending that amount of time they did those few weeks, but did anyway, and did so because there was a "need to" over doing it because they wanted to. You asked how does one overcommit to hunts, and I was answering that question, has nothing to do with 3rd party tools.

[KisaiTenshi]

I was not backing up Kisai's point, more explaining what they truly meant. I repeat myself, I disagree that all hardcore players = the extreme they said, I am also in disagreement they implied the friend I have also does that. I simply said some people can overcomit to this game by spending too much time on it, and how much that means varies from person to person. With my example, they are overcomiting because they do not want to be spending that amount of time they did those few weeks, but did anyway, and did so because there was a "need to" over doing it because they wanted to. You asked how does one overcommit to hunts, and I was answering that question, has nothing to do with 3rd party tools.

Moro was trying to find insult where none was implied.

I speak from experience. If you start spending so much time in the game that you're not enjoying it, it feels like a chore, and can't drop it because you might let down your friends, then you've overcommited to it, and it will end badly. The problem is that a small amount of people who would call themselves hardcore, can't see the big picture that once you let the game control your social interactions, you're planning your life around a game. If you're not being paid by Twitch/Youtube to play the game, you have really no reason at all to give the game your social life.