Player skill level classifications

[MoroMurasaki]

And that's exactly what I was talking about. We all know people like this.

If you're going to overcommit to the game, and not have time to eat, bathe, do laundry, go to work, etc then that goes right into addiction criteria.

Notice when people complain that they either have no time to setup statics, or people in statics complain that people keep bailing on them.

I've already played a MMORPG where I was bugged from dawn to dusk to play with people (that I would logout of chat), and people getting upset that I would play with some and not others. Overcommitment is simply not healthy.

So are you saying that only people who are foregoing basic hygiene and life are hardcore?

Or are you trying to imply all hardcore raiders must be stuffing hot pockets in their mouths and wearing dirty clothes?

I can't imagine anyone thinking that ignoring the necessities of life are okay to ignore in favor if a videogame. I'm sure they're out there but they most definitely aren't as common as people who identify as hardcore raiders.

As usual you not only miss the point but change the benchmark to suit a strawman argument only you see. Classic.

You are right, saying everyone that plays hardcore is overcommit is wrong, however some people still do that time to time. "(how does one overcommit to hunts? Maybe by using that pesky third party hunt tool :thinking: )" that is simple. It differs from person to person but its basically spending more time then they can afford to, mainly though an addiction issue (though there are situations where that can happen outside that) For my personal example, my friend that i call crazy hardcore at times does overcommit at times. How do I know? the fact she complains about "have to" do some activity in x amount of time, usually some high bar goal in regards to gathering. She does stuff like that even though she heavily dislikes it, that is overcomiting

With all due respect the argument "some people commit too much time to this game" does nothing to defend "all hardcore players commit too much time to this game"... I see where you went with it but it really does nothing to back up Kisai's 'point' if that had been your intent. Plenty of people do very well at FFXIV without missing out on another facet of life.