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    Quote Originally Posted by RiyahArp View Post
    I'm not against classifications as descriptive. The problem is that people assign moral worth to social classes way too often, and tend to give a pass or be blind to the negative aspects of the higher classes. Elitism is more or less arguing that the difference classifications also have different value and different importance in themselves. This is very common in life...not just the game, and people tend to not realize how much they do it. There are always rich people, but you can really dislike what they do as a class. You have to realize the social classes exist before you can be angry at what they do.



    Idk, people have made the point of intention, but this is more based on what players would actually do. I mean more about what aspects of the game you try. I couldn't classify based on how people see themselves; i mean what started this was hearing someone describe themselves as a casual ultimate raider.

    These aren't set in stone though, they were just an attempt at trying to view different kinds of players as they exist. TBH i thought it might be good to have a little more positive content from me than i usually do.
    Fair enough. For what it's worth I very much agree - skill does not make someone inherently to more valuable in the setting of a video game and I think this is why I've used casual/hardcore to refer to skill levels more than something like "good/bad" as Driavna suggests.

    Quote Originally Posted by Driavna View Post
    Going to be blunt: stop mixing player skill (good-bad) with time played (casual-hardcore). All of those categories are more about feeling good because something is below you than anything else.
    I mentioned my boyfriend before. He is objectively less skilled than the rest of the people I play with but I would never describe him as "bad". He knows the content he can participate in with his current level of effort and stays within those realms. I feel like people who are so ready to call other players bad probably don't have many friends across different levels of play.

    Also I just think the subjectivity of using good or bad is really suspect. To my boyfriend I'm good, to someone like Elia Sand I am awful. Arbitrary skill assignments (especially with inherent value attached to them) are just silly and a way to stroke people's own ego imo. If you (general you) need to call a huge number of people bad in a public forum just to feel better about yourself perhaps you need to work on you a bit.
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    Last edited by MoroMurasaki; 06-23-2018 at 09:04 PM.