Ultimate hiatus feedback

[HyoMinPark]

No Ultimate but we may have greater chance to have a (very) hard tier this time (considering the boss listed in the leak...).

If said leak is accurate. But I don't think the difficulty will increase; the developers said Savage would stay the same difficulty, and Sigmascape wasn't really any harder than Deltascape. I doubt we'll go back to the preferred Midas levels of Savage. At most, it will be Creator difficulty.

[Ceasaria]

If said leak is accurate. But I don't think the difficulty will increase; the developers said Savage would stay the same difficulty, and Sigmascape wasn't really any harder than Deltascape. I doubt we'll go back to the preferred Midas levels of Savage. At most, it will be Creator difficulty.

All these secrets boss have like as much importance as Exdeath or Kefka, in my opinion.
It would be outrageous to put them at 1st (O1S, O5S) or 2nd (O2S, O6S) level difficulty.

[HyoMinPark]

All these secrets boss have like as much importance as Exdeath or Kefka, in my opinion.
It would be outrageous to put them at 1st (O1S, O5S) or 2nd (O2S, O6S) level difficulty.

Not all of them can be Kefka level. At least two of them will be about the difficulty of Phantom Train for entry.
Putting anything at the difficulty level of Alte Rolte is an insult. He’s not even Savage-level difficulty.

[Stormfur]

I don't raid Ultimate or Savage content but I fully support giving the serious raiders something more to chew on rather than limited it to two fights per expansion.

[Conando]

Not to be a downer, but Ultimate doesn’t actually get enough engagement, in game, to warrant taking dev time away from other content. Forgive me if I’m wrong, but I swear the excuse for less mid and casual content was due to Ultimate. That’s why we’re in this Pagos situation now and even casual players want to unsub.

[Conando]

Oh also, how exactly does Twitch viewers benefit S-E more than actual subs? Sounds to me people who stream on Twitch just don’t want to lose viewers and subs.

[OurMom]

Oh also, how exactly does Twitch viewers benefit S-E more than actual subs? Sounds to me people who stream on Twitch just don’t want to lose viewers and subs.

I believe the last few pages goes over how there are different teams for different content.

Also with the gaming community now, if the game looks fun on twitch then people will buy/sub which helps S.E

An example of this is with Bless, a lot of people said they would never touch Bless before the release, sodapoppin bought it and streamed it and then a lot of his community bought the game as well. Even though most of em refunded the game lol

[Conando]

I believe the last few pages goes over how there are different teams for different content.

Also with the gaming community now, if the game looks fun on twitch then people will buy/sub which helps S.E

An example of this is with Bless, a lot of people said they would never touch Bless before the release, sodapoppin bought it and streamed it and then a lot of his community bought the game as well. Even though most of em refunded the game lol

If that were the case, subs would be going up. Currently there’s nothing to suggest that. More likely, the people watching Ultimate are current players, or recent ones, who do not want to do Ultimate but want to see it. Just be honest about liking having an audience, and doing the content, rather than saying wasting money on stuff practically no one plays will get more people to buy the game. And they already outright said dungeon and story content was being cut for niche content like Ultimate.

[OurMom]

If that were the case, subs would be going up.

We don't have any official status of what's going on with subs one way or another.

Just be honest about liking having an audience

I don't stream nor do I run ultimate....

And they already outright said dungeon and story content was being cut for niche content like Ultimate.

When and where did they say this?

[BillyKaplan]

And they already outright said dungeon and story content was being cut for niche content like Ultimate.

If anything, they made it sound like content was being cut for more diverse and engaging story content like the Lakshmi trial in 4.1, the Soroban trial, and more recently the "roleplay" instance. Which doesn't make sense since I doubt those things took that much resources, but at the time, iirc, that's the context they presented dungeon cuts in.
Now, don't get me wrong, I liked those instances a lot, but given they're one hit wonders since we can't run them again, whereas Ultimate has 1. replay value, 2. entertainment value for audiences, which is really the waste here?