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  1. #21
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    Renato's Avatar
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    Rael Levynfang
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    I actually don't mind the gap in between patches this time around tbh. It gives me time to level and gear some of the other jobs I have.

    I can understand why people would be upset though...this patch does seem a bit lackluster. Honestly, I'm glad they've agreed to stop production on the Ultimate series. Hopefully they can use that manpower for other things and get content out a bit faster. From what I understand, the Ultimate and Savage scene is a very small percentage of the playerbase.
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  2. #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Even at a gradual pace, the content released with 4.3 can easily be completed within less than a week.
    It can also be easily completed in longer.

    Took me 3 weeks to do it at my gradual pace (and that's without going into eureka for the new challenge log because I'm already 20). I took my time and combined it with some older content as well.

    Admittedly people who have been playing for a long time would have less older content to mix it with. For example, I used that to finally catch up on Hildibrand - which I did. So...next time I want to pace out content I won't be able to do that again as now that I'm caught up I will probably do the continuations when they are released. I also started using the new changes to potd Grip to work on getting those pretty weapons - once again if someone already has those, then that's not something to do. I also do hunts and did some achievements to get that pop up to disappear in more places. And sometimes I randomly join o5s/o6s practice parties to help new raiders out just for fun. Since I'm a healer that's decently geared, my knowledge of these fights can help make up for their mistakes as they learn and help them get their clear sooner, so I quite like doing that.

    I'm not entirely disagreeing, considering that even at my super leisurely pace I still managed to do "all" the new content at least once(except ultimate and the 3rd new command mission)before the next patch, though without farming any of it for gear/doggo, just pointing out some people can draw it out for longer than a week. Though the gold saucer event,aetherpool grips, and gear/doggo farming that I will eventually do, and helping newbs out will definitely last me until the next patch.
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  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remyogic View Post
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    Yeah I was going to raise some similar things to what you said but you beat me to it, essentially rounded up what I was thinking though.

    In the end content is individually valued by each player and they decide what is or isn't enough for them so there can be moments when they just don't have enough to do, but one man's trash can often be another man's gold. Some players have no intention to touch Eureka at all which is fine, (it's still content though), but I know a couple of players alternating between that and working on a Ultimate's Refrain prog. Both things couldn't be further apart from each other yet it's something they are working towards and they are happy with those little projects.

    Perhaps if there was no Ultimate raids to please the hardcore raiders, maybe it's possible things like Heaven on High would of been released sooner as more resources could of been spent on it rather than niche content. It's nice to have regardless, but something has to compromise somewhere and if there is a little bit longer of draught for some players, then it's likely connected to other content in some form.
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  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remyogic View Post
    I feel this is a key statement that Most players completely miss. Since it is natural that our feelings on the amount of content revolve around "what we personally want to do".
    Would you rather I see new content then? Artificially extending the life of content may work for you, but many players want more recent things. They aren't interested in grinding every piece of gear possibly obtainable from Eureka. In fact, despite that being a goal of mine, I wouldn't necessarily equate it with being content because it's simply me trying to draw out a patch.

    Quote Originally Posted by Squintina View Post
    It can also be easily completed in longer.

    Took me 3 weeks to do it at my gradual pace (and that's without going into eureka for the new challenge log because I'm already 20). I took my time and combined it with some older content as well.
    No offense, but good for you? Why should others be left waiting around because they didn't wish to artificially draw out content. It took you three weeks to do the MSQ, Ridorana and etc? Great. I finished them all within a day. I shouldn't have to force 4.3 to last because you prefer it that way. This is why options are important. Releasing Heaven on High now doesn't change your playstyle, but it provides something for others to enjoy in lieu of essentially quitting for several weeks. Frankly, I'm of the belief these staggered releases are purely to keep people subbed.
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  5. #25
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    Still sitting here wondering why this raid tier loot restriction hasn't been removed yet. Knowing them they are probably thinking about removing it when next step for eureka which is just a bad move. Doesn't feel good at all practically being restricted playing a game when the developers think their player base would "have too much to do". Absolute zero interest in crafting but actually like playing all the dps classes but once again staggered content makes gearing multiple classes rng play a day/wait next week.
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  6. #26
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    It's worth pointing out that SE has been doing this gating or drawing out content since 1.0 at least, don't you remember the fatigue system?

    However that aside I still beliede that some arguments are on point and some are a bit off the mark. Imho the constant asking for a reduced grind has idd brought this on ourselves.
    Some feelings that I feel from this threads are that it is like perceving it was different before. Let me tell you it wasn't the only change is that you are complaining now instead of say July.

    The problem is the content itself beign developed to meet the request of beign fast food, which is hurting the game more than ppl realize. By beign less invested in what you do and beign quickly rewarded you cannot feel satisfaction in the in-game activities.
    Now do i believe that a new director would change things around? Not really as said this kind of procedure are now the norm in MMORPGs and frankly SE was already implementing then in the failed 1.0 as a way to make hardcore ppl beign not too far away than others , as such I don't believe that a change in the chain of command will change anything. It seems to me that it's a decision made by the whole company and perhaps the whole market itself as such we can either adapt or move on.

    Personally though I would pursue option C which is keep asking for not spreading the content so far since I agree with the mindset that we should decide for OURSELVES which content to tackle and not beign made to follow one path
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  7. #27
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    I get the concept of "we don't want to release gear at the same time as other gear that it will make obsolete" but that can be fixed, change what gear you're offering from where.

    Beyond that, stop dictating what I get to play and when.

    I hear a lot of "but I have other things to do and I might not be able to do all of the new content immediately and I don't want other people to do it if I can't" and I just. Pick and choose. You want to do one thing, not another? Do that one thing. But don't advocate taking content away from other players just because you're not ready for it.
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  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    No offense, but good for you? Why should others be left waiting around because they didn't wish to artificially draw out content. It took you three weeks to do the MSQ, Ridorana and etc? Great. I finished them all within a day. I shouldn't have to force 4.3 to last because you prefer it that way. This is why options are important. Releasing Heaven on High now doesn't change your playstyle, but it provides something for others to enjoy in lieu of essentially quitting for several weeks. Frankly, I'm of the belief these staggered releases are purely to keep people subbed.
    I think you might have read my post with preconceived expectations. I didn't say anything about forcing other people to play that way or that players shouldn't have options.
    I was merely saying that some players do make it last longer than even the week you alloted - and also reminding of how some players might have filled that using the QOL changes (such as the potd aetherpool grip. POTD isn't new, but that change is. The gold saucer and challenge log changes also went with the gold saucer event. Once again not new, but such QOL changes would incentivize people to revisit that content).

    Nothing about whether SE should force people to do that at all, or whether it's morally right for them to do so.

    I wouldn't have minded if they released HoH and the new Eureka at 4.3 instead of staggering. We're all capable of determining how we want to pace our own content and if people wanted to do HoH from the get go, they should have had that right. Wouldn't have affected people like me at all.

    I also think their answer in the PLL was stupid. If rewards clash then they should stop making competitive weapons as rewards for everything. People would have done Trial EX for the mount,so just make that weapon worse than Eureka's so that it's a glamour weapon only. They could have made HoH give accessories. Ta-dah, no more clashing because Trial = mount + glamour weapon, Eureka = real weapon, Hoh = accessories, Dungeon + alliance = left side armor + cards. Ultimate raiders requesting not to have to choose? That's an easy fix too. Make Ultimate the .5 patch instead of .1 and have everything else on the pure patch. 6 weeks should be enough time for them to get the other content done and get ready for ultimate. Doesn't take a genius o.o
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  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Would you rather I see new content then? Artificially extending the life of content may work for you, but many players want more recent things. They aren't interested in grinding every piece of gear possibly obtainable from Eureka. In fact, despite that being a goal of mine, I wouldn't necessarily equate it with being content because it's simply me trying to draw out a patch.
    Nobody is artificially extending the life on ANYTHING. Once content is done, it is done. If it hasn't been completed, it's not done and, regardless of age, it still exists. Simple fact. You don't get to pick and choose what stuff is defined as content and what is not to fit your narrative, at least not in an objective discussion.

    If there is something in the game that you have not completed, then there is content you have not done; hence it is NEW content for YOU, regardless of when it was created. Period. Your interest in said content is irrelevant to that objective fact.

    Where your interest IS relevant is in the subjective statement of "there is no content in the game I am currently interested in." Which is fine, to each his own. But don't try to turn your subjective opinions on what you feel is and is not content into a launching board against how others play the game and how there is no content to do at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    It took you three weeks to do the MSQ, Ridorana and etc? Great. I finished them all within a day.
    No offense, but good for you? Why should others be left struggling to keep up with patch cycles because they didn't wish to glutton themselves on content in one day? Other's shouldn't be forced to put in an obscene amount of gaming hours each day in order to enjoy everything the game has to offer just because you prefer it that way. This is why understanding ALL of the content options in the game is important, it gives you options. Including the option to TAKE A BREAK. Frankly, I'm of the belief these staggered releases are a good thing. Too many people are WAY too attached to their pixels.

    Quote Originally Posted by InkstainedGwyn View Post
    Beyond that, stop dictating what I get to play and when.
    SE is the developer for FFXIV, by DEFINITION it is not only their right to do this; it is their job.
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    Last edited by Remyogic; 06-20-2018 at 05:01 AM.

  10. #30
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    It wouldn't be a horrible thing to be allowed to progress by your own choice instead of because its the only way to fill in that slot.

    Quote Originally Posted by Remyogic View Post
    No offense, but good for you? Why should others be left struggling to keep up with patch cycles because they didn't wish to glutton themselves on content in one day? Other's shouldn't be forced to put in an obscene amount of gaming hours each day in order to enjoy everything the game has to offer just because you prefer it that way. This is why understanding ALL of the content options in the game is important, it gives you options. Including the option to TAKE A BREAK. Frankly, I'm of the belief these staggered releases are a good thing. Too many people are WAY too attached to their pixels.
    Why would they be struggling if that new content isn't going anywhere. Who is forcing them? From your own examples they would effectively have an infinite amount of content to look forward to. I don't even know how you can call it glutting. It takes very little effective time. You are either doing it or you are not. If you felt like putzing around for an hour every time a quest told you to go somewhere, great. We've hit that thing called player choice.
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    Last edited by Tiraelina; 06-20-2018 at 05:15 AM.

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