Trapped in my fc.

[Niwashi]

Sounds like your just being blocked or they are preventing you based on new FC. I would just cut my loses, learn, and move on.

That's exactly what he's trying to do - get out of that defunct FC and move on. The whole issue this thread is about is that the game WON'T LET HIM LEAVE.

To leave the FC he has to demolish his room.
To demolish his room, he has to remove its furnishings.
To remove his room's furnishings, he has to enter it — through the house.
To enter the house and his room, he needs permission to do so.
He DOESN'T HAVE permission to enter the house, because the new FC leader took that access away from him.
Result: He's not able to leave the FC.

Now, it's possible the FC leader didn't know about that whole consequence chain when he removed OP's access. Most players don't, and it's not a very obvious consequence. Removing OP's permission to enter their house is still a jerk move, but he may not have actually intended to hold him hostage in the FC. But intended or not, Johnmark is still stuck there.

[ManuelBravo]

GM can't reset those settings. Happened to a friend of mine and they cleared it. By filing a tech ticket from tech support rather than in game. Was done in 48hrs. Same thing happened with a choco being stuck in a FC. Contacting GM's takes longer of a process. ( I use to be a GM for a different game. ) Hmmm also I had a member in my old FC and he abandoned the FC I will ask him, I don't think he went through the FC leader for it it was an option under his settings as a member.

[Vidu]

GM can't reset those settings. Happened to a friend of mine and they cleared it. By filing a tech ticket from tech support rather than in game. Was done in 48hrs. Same thing happened with a choco being stuck in a FC. Contacting GM's takes longer of a process. ( I use to be a GM for a different game. ) Hmmm also I had a member in my old FC and he abandoned the FC I will ask him, I don't think he went through the FC leader for it it was an option under his settings as a member.

Thanks I posted it to there now. A gm told me because they can not locate my room I'm apparently bugged, so to forcibly remove me from my fc would I was told could cause my character to become unplayable.

Honestly it's all just stupid

He apparently tried contacting a GM.

Which he actually should not have to do in the first place - the option to lock people out of FC-rooms should not exist. Period.

If your friend could enter the house and demolish his room (or never had one to begin with), he wouldnt need the FC-leader to do anything.
But you can not leave an FC as long as you have a room in the FC-house.
And you cant demolish a room with furniture in it.
But if you cant enter your room, you cant get the furniture out.
And if you cant enter the house, you cant get to your room.
Obviously you dont need the FC-leader to kick or remove you from the FC. Obviously you have the option to leave in your own menu. But you need to clear any potential room first - and thats what the OP cant do and whats just plain wrong.

[Thamorian]

Johnmark, did you submit a bug report in the bug section of these forums?

[ExKage]

Johnmark, did you submit a bug report in the bug section of these forums?

They moved it to the Accepted section.

[Johnmark]

I have rooted it to bug roots twice now and posted this to reddit also. Ya I admit I should of tried to log in to keep leadership but I had no idea once the fc died I could be trapped in it like this. I've been reporting to harassment GM's and to bug report GM's and had other GM's contact me to just ask me information.

I believe it possible that when I was fc leader I moved the fc but never entered my room after I moved the house so that could be causing some of the issue.

All I know is this needs to be changed

[Nestama]

I'd probably go a step further and accuse the player of being infraction of the ToS.

3.2 Disruption. You may not in any way disrupt or interfere with the Game experience of other players, including the disruption of Square Enix's computers and servers.
Offending player has put you at the lowest rank, which prevents you from entering the house. As you're unable to enter the house, you can't demolish your room, which means you can't leave your FC and join a new one with friends. They're harassing you AND disrupting your gaming experience.

Naturally, this issue needs to be fixed 4 years ago.

[Niwashi]

3.2 Disruption. You may not in any way disrupt or interfere with the Game experience of other players, including the disruption of Square Enix's computers and servers.
Offending player has put you at the lowest rank, which prevents you from entering the house. As you're unable to enter the house, you can't demolish your room, which means you can't leave your FC and join a new one with friends. They're harassing you AND disrupting your gaming experience.

To punish him for it as a ToS violation, they'd probably also have to know that it was done deliberately.

Removing Johnmark's access to the house (by itself, not counting all its subsequent effects) was a bit of a selfish jerk sort of thing to do, but SE is the one who put that option into the game, so using it wouldn't by itself be considered a ToS level of disruption.

If the FC leader knew that blocking house access would in turn prevent him from being able to leave the FC, and did so deliberately in order to trap him there, then I think that would qualify as disruption. But SE would need to know that the FC leader knew about that result. Unless he taunted Johnmark about it or demanded payment for being let out of the FC or something of the sort, that's probably not clear. (Given how little the FC leader apparently plays that character now, it's quite possible —even likely— he doesn't even realize Johnmark is trapped, and just thinks he hasn't decided to leave.)

[Vherkin]

This is crazy, i hope it get resolved soon. Hell, it should have been corrected in 2015 when it was first brought up !

[Nestama]

To punish him for it as a ToS violation, they'd probably also have to know that it was done deliberately.

They don't really need to punish them, but rather suggest they open the house up and allow OP to demolish their room so they can freely leave the FC. Granted the GM's would have to keep an eye on {Player} for X amount of days until they log in (unless they can move logged out characters into the Gaol).

That said, Johnmark said in the OP that the new leader kicked every other member out of the FC, except for him. Even if you have a Private Room in the house, you can still be kicked by the leader (unless this has changed). Heck, the other three members in the FC, two of which are only level 1 and 3, are at a higher rank than Johnmark.