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    [dev1016] Synthesis interface improvements

    *[dev1016] Synthesis interface improvements

    * Examination of synthesis recipe balancing
    * Adjustments to begin after settling on specs
    * Expansion of synthesis recipe history (currently stores eight recipes)
    * Adjustments to the item synthesis process

    As I will agree that some recipes make crafting seem non-progressive, and some recipes require materials made by other classes sometimes 30rks higher then the end product. I don't mind it, it keeps everyone from using the same items. It also promotes that people need to work together, enforces economy and diversity.

    I will always disagree with the simplifying of the crafting system, EQ2 had a system similar to this one at first and then they patched in a system that made crafting so easy that everyone started crafting and made crafting undesirable. LOTRO is another example of why not to mess with a good hard crafting system, after 2yrs they dumbed the crafting system down to a point where crafting is just an annoying feature that nobody really use for anything but themselves.

    If anything make crafting harder, or more challenging. If you dont like it, then dont craft. The only thing simplifying accomplishes is disrespecting everyone that went through the hard grind, and makes items have less value and purpose.
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    I'd just like it if crafting was fun and exciting.
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    I would like to say first, that this game isn't in the position to make any claims of, "If you don't like it, then don't [insert whatever here]" right now. People don't like it and people aren't playing it right now as a result. I'm not specifically referring to crafting, just anything with the game in general. I find crafting to be the only thing really enjoyable with the game currently. But I will say that making it harder will not help. Due to the game's economic design it needs both fighters and crafters. And I wouldn't have it any other way. The last thing you want to do is scare away people from crafting.

    One thing I would like to see change involving crafting is for the color of the lights to be more vibrant. I can barely make out the colors shown currently. Another thing would be to make crafter abilities more potent. I don't notice much, if any, difference after using either Maker's Muse or Fulfillment.
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    I see nothing wrong with crafting, some people just hate crafting in all mmos. I think to make the majority happy they would have to make it like WoW. Easy to do, easy to level, and fast. (aka eliminate a mass part of the grind of leveling the craft). But this will also destroy the economy, with crafting I see it as something you do to make money in the game making it too "Fun" will destroy the whole purpose of doing it.

    Crafting in my opinion is something they should not change at all fundamentally SE pretty much hit crafting on the head of what it should be. They need to streamline the UI and remove the downtime from that, but keep everything else mainly the same.

    If they do anything they need to add crafting into something like defending(Re-enforcing)/rebuilding the hamlets after an attack or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nephera View Post
    I'd just like it if crafting was fun and exciting.
    I dont see how it can get any more fun than this.. any suggestions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Point_Zero View Post
    I dont see how it can get any more fun than this.. any suggestions?
    Turn the crafting minigame into a ripoff of Bejeweled, or Puyo Puyo, or Tetris, or some other game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RabidSquirrel View Post
    One thing I would like to see change involving crafting is for the color of the lights to be more vibrant. I can barely make out the colors shown currently.
    Maximum this, depending on what tool you're working with the contrast between it and the lights often isnt very good making you mistake one color for another (Weaver's embroidering ring is probably the most guilty of this)


    I dont see how it can get any more fun than this.. any suggestions?
    there's been a few ideas put forth like school sessions and team crafting, also bolstering defendable positions as a crafter, maybe more depth to the minigame, maybe a new and better minigame. Maybe some flashier effects and sounds for crafting to add a bit more on the psychological side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rentahamster View Post
    Turn the crafting minigame into a ripoff of Bejeweled, or Puyo Puyo, or Tetris, or some other game.
    Oh god everyone would be at max crafting TOMORROW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RabidSquirrel View Post
    One thing I would like to see change involving crafting is for the color of the lights to be more vibrant. I can barely make out the colors shown currently.
    I agree with this. As a weaver particularly, I sometimes struggle to see exactly what color the light is. I've found that it's easier to distinguish if I move the camera angle so I'm looking up at the bottom of the hoop, but let's face it, having a camera angle like that just makes me feel creepy.
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    Way too many menus and confirmation screens to go through each craft. There should also be an option to craft in mass production like during leve quests. Just a simple "Do you want to produce this recipe again?"
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