THM vs Tank FIGHT!!

[Rydin]

Cool stats! Where did ya take from? Could be useful in some Moogle fights

this thread
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...Translation%29
which links to translation of a Japanese player that did all the tests.. and also confirmed by Kaeoko's test and confirmed by some testing I've done myself
They have compiled a decent enmity chart

[Krausus]

I think it is hard to compare MRD and GLA for hate generation, I mean on one hand GLA has more hate generating abilities, yet it does much less damage then MRD, I will say GLA is going to be the better AoE tank hands down. Either way they both make great tanks in Ifrit.

[Rydin]

I think it is hard to compare MRD and GLA for hate generation, I mean on one hand GLA has more hate generating abilities, yet it does much less damage then MRD, I will say GLA is going to be the better AoE tank hands down. Either way they both make great tanks in Ifrit.

They do both make great tanks
BUT... since enmity generation is formulaic... You actually can compare the hate

They're cousins though...
and Honestly... Both of them get hated on all the time....
Just because they can wear plate...

[Krausus]

They do both make great tanks
BUT... since enmity generation is formulaic... You actually can compare the hate

They're cousins though...
and Honestly... Both of them get hated on all the time....
Just because they can wear plate...

comparing the formulas alone leaves out the most important factor (the player) so yeah technically if you compare raw numbers only then yes you can claim the best class for hate generation.

[Razen_Arghast]

SO... you THMs think u badass if u steal hate from the Tank huh?

Hmm... Seems real easy to do so...

Tank's best buffed attack is crap compared to a THM's crappiest one...

So... how is it that you THMs think you are awesome if u manage to steal hate???

I'm probably one of the crappiest THMs on my server, wearing crappy non melded gear
non melded Ivory staff, wearinfg a loyallist's bliaud lol, AND i still am in red a lot of the time in an Ifrit battle...
So dudes, don't try your best to steal hate from the tank just to say "lol i'm a beast"

So In other words, it's not badass to do something that everyone can do lol...
It's just common.

So peeps that say "Oh sorry i didnt mean to"
It's bs. you first go to static red before going to blinking red and steal the mob.
So if you didnt notice that you are in the static red state when you were doing Thundaga you are probably an idiot that don't know how to do your job.
Not a badass THM lol...

<Chameleon> <Please check it>

Not a hate thread just having me some forum fun

Hurhurhur! Someone's pissed. You want to chew on some annoying hate-stealing THM that you partied with and instead of /telling him all that you make a rant post in the forums when there's a good chance s/he won't even see it. Kinda pointless don't you think?

Also, have you ever been in green hate and go all like "Cool, low hate Thunder-<Excruciate>-Thundara, great still green with a touch of yellow, Thundaga *crit* RAAAWWRRR! Ifrit running to you in rage lol" Fun times^^.

Also, <Hate meter stuck permanently in red even after you regen from 500ish mp to full> <Please check it>.

[Overkill9000]

good blms are like ninjas; their effects are noticed but the source remains unknown. silent but deadly. or is that a well-concealed fart?

[Matsume]

At least you DoW's don't lose TP on combo. Just imagine the leet hate us DoM's would posses if we didn't lose mp on combo spell casts? DIS IS UNFAIR TROLOLOL WE ARE SUPERIOR RAWR!

[Peeka]

Hurhurhur! Someone's pissed. You want to chew on some annoying hate-stealing THM that you partied with and instead of /telling him all that you make a rant post in the forums when there's a good chance s/he won't even see it. Kinda pointless don't you think?

Also, have you ever been in green hate and go all like "Cool, low hate Thunder-<Excruciate>-Thundara, great still green with a touch of yellow, Thundaga *crit* RAAAWWRRR! Ifrit running to you in rage lol" Fun times^^.

Also, <Hate meter stuck permanently in red even after you regen from 500ish mp to full> <Please check it>.

That rarely happens if you let the tank build hate for about 30secs. Also, you being stuck in red can be a result of the other thms lacking in dmg leaving the hate not being spread out evenly.

[Razen_Arghast]

Nah, just noticed that sometimes hate meter bugs and doesn't budge from yellow or red for most of the fight. And usually no ppl are dead so the threat is most certainly fluctuating.

Also I always whack Ifrit for a while at the start getting 2k TP while the tank draws his attention. Just sometimes 1-2 crits can send him raging at me^^ Nothing Chameleon can't fix though.

I'm mostly poking OP for his post cause it's more or less pointless^^

[Morticous]

SEs next move as answer to this thread: Make THM do more damage then ever but bring the hate accumulated by it down by 50%! Why ask players to manage their hate when you could make it easy for ANYONE to do ridiculous damage!?