you know I've parties as thaum and con Renshi is a good Tank but i've pulled hate offa him as con then got thoroughly scolded.... anyway I've taken hate as thaum too from over nuking. I myself joke about it calling myself a mage tank. Then when I do that I try to slow down on my nuking. *sighs* i love nuking though.... btw I don't think I'm better than the tank if I take hate