THM vs Tank FIGHT!!

[darkstarpoet1]

Well yes they manage their hate by using Chameleon & Shroud of Saints, but with those being used as often as they can, the thms can't pull hate.

i hate to tell you, but you have 2 things wrong.

1. a thm cannot use shroud of saints since it's a con only ability.
2. even using hate reducing skills it is still very VERY easy to pull hate unless you take your time and limit your skills.

if a thm goes all out there is no tank in the game that can keep hate. if they are nuking non stop and doesn't do their job correctly no matter the skill level of the tank they cannot keep hate because the thm will take it.

[indira]

thm taking hate = NOOB thm

[Elune]

I miss Warp and Warp II. If a group annoyed you, firaga + warp or warp II on tank then warp. Immortal classics. One had real power in those days.

[Asterius]

From the same fight.
GLA POV:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8GQvyIx1pc
THM POV:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kV-gd...watch_response

GLA keeps hate, THMs take part in helping the GLA keep hate. It's a team fight. (Notice the Rampart and Sacred Prism+Cures on the THM).
A GLA will not lose hate if they are using all hate generating abilities, meaning a THM cannot pull hate even if they go all out right at the start.

There's no harm for the GLAs to throw cures to the THMs or CNJs, there's also no harm if the THMs stand closer to Ifrit so GLA can cure them. It's a team fight, help each other do their role and the fight will be fine.

[Xakery]

I only screw around and have fun in Ifrit. I joke about getting to red first, Chameleon to green, then stay constant yellow. Running a parser to measure up dps or hps, when I'm Conjurer.
Some people are stupid, but that comes with the territory. I think you're getting a bit worked up Yuri. ^^; Idiots are rampant on our server. That's why almost a third of our server is on my blacklist. Sure does make my day a whole lot less stressful.

[Leo_Hart]

From the same fight.
GLA POV:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8GQvyIx1pc
THM POV:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kV-gd...watch_response

GLA keeps hate, THMs take part in helping the GLA keep hate. It's a team fight. (Notice the Rampart and Sacred Prism+Cures on the THM).
A GLA will not lose hate if they are using all hate generating abilities, meaning a THM cannot pull hate even if they go all out right at the start.

There's no harm for the GLAs to throw cures to the THMs or CNJs, there's also no harm if the THMs stand closer to Ifrit so GLA can cure them. It's a team fight, help each other do their role and the fight will be fine.

i even use resonance

[Gugnir]

If thms didnt pull hate off a random pick up tank, it would defeat the purpose of joining a lol run. Random things like this make you appreciate a good ls main tank.. love you taki!

[Krausus]

OP those THMs are baddies I mean for f*** sake SE even put in a threat meter to help them be less baddies.

[Renshi]

No... I wasn't being rude... I just figured you were typing quick when you put Wait for Parry with War drum since war drum comes after blocks.. and not parries... it was by mistake...
I just didn't want anyone to see that and think they could use War drum after a parry...
Figured it was a typo....
You're still my favorite Marauder

Oh, that!
Sorry man, I didn't notice it, and I just typed fast as you said. It's just that I call any type of blocking attack a parry. After all you parry with either your weapon or your shield =)
I know it's really different in an RPG, but hey... =D
I also meant, that my answer towards you was kinda harsh, so I apologize for that.

Sometimes I out DPS my pals with MRD, it's fun to hit that big piece of coal =)

[Renshi]

Aegis Boon + War Drum is a big deal... Not only does it mitigate one full attack... but it generates tons of enmity....
Also... Have you been on Glad? 15-20 on a weaponskill?
Fast Blade>Savage Blade>Goring Blade and you'll see Goring blade do over 100 damage...
Fast Blade>Flat Blade while Goring blade is on cooldown and you'll do 70+ damage with Flat blade....
Also Fast Blade>Flat Blade has a much lower cool down than any of the MRD combos, so you can do it more often... and I mean pretty much constantly










Ask yourself this... If MRD weaponskills are doing 5x's the damage of Glad weaponskills... why, in your example, is the MRD only doing 15% more in your example?
That math doesn't add up...
I do like MRD... It makes for a faster fight with more DPS.. but GLAD holds hate better

Yes MRD is doing a more damage..
But here is MATH
War drum generates 363 enmity... (540 under sentinel)
And has a 1 minute cooldown
So you have to do "at least" 363 MORE DAMAGE than a glad PER MINUTE to even be in the ballpark, in terms of enmity
I don't know that you can refute math...

Im not being a douche... I play both classes... and when I wanna be a hard hitting tank I go MRD.. but numbers dont lie

I don't even have to mention rampart

Cool stats! Where did ya take from? Could be useful in some Moogle fights