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  1. #41
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    Hahaaaa i wasnt really seeking help in here. was just a thread i posted for fun. as i said in the original post lol.

    I know tanking well now. it's all about THMs feeling like they do something that is difficult to do and feeling awesome about it when in reallity they do something that the crappiest THM can do if he spams thunder combos.. thats all.
    Imma go now. will find those THMS and tell them to tank while i am THM...
    I'LL SHOW THEM AWESOME!!

    jk. i aint hating really. It's only in pickup parties that i have issue like that. my own group knows better that to do stuff that will actually decrease the chances of success in a battle. (and there another smiley face, that should do it)
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  2. #42
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    you know I've parties as thaum and con Renshi is a good Tank but i've pulled hate offa him as con then got thoroughly scolded.... anyway I've taken hate as thaum too from over nuking. I myself joke about it calling myself a mage tank. Then when I do that I try to slow down on my nuking. *sighs* i love nuking though.... btw I don't think I'm better than the tank if I take hate
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    I have a secret to tell. From my electrical well. It's a simple message and I'm leaving out the whistles and bells. So the room must listen to me Filibuster vigilantly. My name is blue canary one note* spelled l-i-t-e. My story's infinite Like the Longines Symphonette it doesn't rest- TMBG Birdhouse in your Soul
    A huge THANK YOU!!!! For FINALLY selling the Meteor Survivor Polo on the store. AND a huge thanks to my friend who bought it for me while he was at Fan Fest!!! YES I finally have my POLO!!!

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    "Good Tank" difficult term imo...

    A tank is a good one if he reacts well in a bad situation, when things go shitty.
    Enmity control? meh...
    Most can keep hate on them, as long as they dont have THMs killing the whole battle that is.
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  4. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by YuriSan View Post
    "Good Tank" difficult term imo...

    A tank is a good one if he reacts well in a bad situation, when things go shitty.
    Enmity control? meh...
    Most can keep hate on them, as long as they dont have THMs killing the whole battle that is.
    again even with your opinion of a good tank Renshi is one ^_^
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    I have a secret to tell. From my electrical well. It's a simple message and I'm leaving out the whistles and bells. So the room must listen to me Filibuster vigilantly. My name is blue canary one note* spelled l-i-t-e. My story's infinite Like the Longines Symphonette it doesn't rest- TMBG Birdhouse in your Soul
    A huge THANK YOU!!!! For FINALLY selling the Meteor Survivor Polo on the store. AND a huge thanks to my friend who bought it for me while he was at Fan Fest!!! YES I finally have my POLO!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    again even with your opinion of a good tank Renshi is one ^_^

    Fantastic!!

    (i believe i'm covered with all these)
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  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by YuriSan View Post
    Fantastic!!

    (i believe i'm covered with all these)
    lol i do believe you are rofl by the way I meant even your ideas of a good tank Renshi fits them as well wasn't saying that in a f off sort of way
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    I have a secret to tell. From my electrical well. It's a simple message and I'm leaving out the whistles and bells. So the room must listen to me Filibuster vigilantly. My name is blue canary one note* spelled l-i-t-e. My story's infinite Like the Longines Symphonette it doesn't rest- TMBG Birdhouse in your Soul
    A huge THANK YOU!!!! For FINALLY selling the Meteor Survivor Polo on the store. AND a huge thanks to my friend who bought it for me while he was at Fan Fest!!! YES I finally have my POLO!!!

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    Overzelous thm's yank hate. Decent to good thms know how to ride the hate line.
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  8. #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldaena View Post
    What they should not be doing is trying to out dps someone else...
    lollllllllllllll


    Quote Originally Posted by Griss View Post
    Overzelous thm's yank hate. Decent to good thms know how to ride the hate line.
    ^


    anyway, the person who suggested MRD tanking early in the thread is pretty spot on. GLD relies too much on static hate from ability use. damage is a large factor in enmity in this game, since 1 dmg = 1 enmity, and MRD just hits a lot harder on ifrit. considering flat blade in a combo does like 2x enmity of damage dealt, and flat blade is only hitting ifrit for like 20 dmg... yeah. not amazing.

    gld is better for moogle, though, since it can mitigate more damage and actually do reasonable damage to the moogles at the same time.

    anyway, if anyone hasn't seen this yet they should probably check it out. understanding enmity is definitely a group effort.

    but you can't just blame it all on one class. everyone has to be better at managing it. tanks need to generate more so dps can go harder, dps need to go as hard as possible without crossing hate threshold, blah blah.
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    Last edited by fusional; 02-06-2012 at 04:25 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renshi View Post
    Then I have to give him my apologizes, I recognize that answer was kinda harsh... So cheers!
    No... I wasn't being rude... I just figured you were typing quick when you put Wait for Parry with War drum since war drum comes after blocks.. and not parries... it was by mistake...
    I just didn't want anyone to see that and think they could use War drum after a parry...
    Figured it was a typo....
    You're still my favorite Marauder
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    Quote Originally Posted by fusional View Post
    lollllllllllllll




    ^


    anyway, the person who suggested MRD tanking early in the thread is pretty spot on. GLD relies too much on static hate from ability use. damage is a large factor in enmity in this game, since 1 dmg = 1 enmity, and MRD just hits a lot harder on ifrit. considering flat blade in a combo does like 2x enmity of damage dealt, and flat blade is only hitting ifrit for like 20 dmg... yeah. not amazing.

    gld is better for moogle, though, since it can mitigate more damage and actually do reasonable damage to the moogles at the same time.

    anyway, if anyone hasn't seen this yet they should probably check it out. understanding enmity is definitely a group effort.

    but you can't just blame it all on one class. everyone has to be better at managing it. tanks need to generate more so dps can go harder, dps need to go as hard as possible without crossing hate threshold, blah blah.
    Not true... the higher the defense on a MOB... the better Glad is as a tank.....
    Because Damage goes up or down depending on the MOB but the hate generated from abilities is consistent.
    Honestly... the difference between damage from a Glad and damage from a MRD on Ifrit has been reduced considerably
    MRD use to outdamage glad by light years... now.. not so much
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