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  1. #11
    Player
    WhyAmIHere's Avatar
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    Apr 2017
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    Gridania/Lominsa
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    950
    Character
    Mute Shellback
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ekimmak View Post
    About the only reason I can see for darkside neutralizing refresh now is that we have very clean-cut MP numbers. All our spells cost nice, round numbers, all our restoration is nice, round numbers, and our max MP is a nice, round number of 9480. Throwing in a refresh (or turning off darkside) messes that number up.

    I'd still rather have the refresh, to be honest.
    Soul Survivor begs to differ.
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  2. #12
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    Ekimmak's Avatar
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    Character
    Carlo Vinne
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by WhyAmIHere View Post
    Soul Survivor begs to differ.
    Yeah, it kind of messes it up now. That's the price paid for letting it trigger off anything.
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  3. #13
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    Character
    Zyneste Azurox
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kurando View Post
    BLM can't accept MP from Mana Shift (or Refresh, Ewer) if Astral Fire is active.
    Black Mage can accept Chunks of MP, like from Manashift, it just cant obtain refresh status while under Astral fire (stuff like Lucid, Ranged Refresh, or the Ewer.) Its the only reason Convert works in Astral fire.

    When on RDM the hubby will feed manashifts to BLMs if the healers are fine, his MP is healthy, there isn't a bard and if he sees that they just refreshed astral fire, so he knows they have enough time to adjust their rotation for the extra Astral spell.
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  4. #14
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    TheMightyMollusk's Avatar
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    Iyami Galvayra
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    Personally, given the aesthetic, I always thought of it as Dark Knight not relying on other people. It's the the solo vigilante class. It's ability to protect is narrow, its focus in Heavensward was on disabling / debuffing an enemy rather than protecting the party directly, and it just didn't play nice with anyone.
    Given that DRK has pathetic self-healing on single targets, the only invulnerability of the three tanks that kills them without help, and can throw shields on others almost at will with TBN, it's really the least independent of the tanks now.
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  5. #15
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    Azerhan's Avatar
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    Kugane
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    231
    Character
    Orlane Armilly
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    Personally, given the aesthetic, I always thought of it as Dark Knight not relying on other people. It's the the solo vigilante class. It's ability to protect is narrow, its focus in Heavensward was on disabling / debuffing an enemy rather than protecting the party directly, and it just didn't play nice with anyone.
    In fact, I love that way for the DRK.
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    "Là où il n'y a pas d'imagination, il n'y a pas d'horreur." Sherlock Holmes, Une étude en rouge, Conan Doyle

  6. #16
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    Kabooa's Avatar
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    Character
    Jace Ossura
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    Given that DRK has pathetic self-healing on single targets, the only invulnerability of the three tanks that kills them without help, and can throw shields on others almost at will with TBN, it's really the least independent of the tanks now.
    It has the best sustain of the tanks.

    It's just nobody ever wants to be in Grit.
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