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[Lovescake]

We still have one more 24 man, one more set of Omega raids, however many more primals, some more dungeons, any new Eureka wings added...and at the end of HW they did add a few small unannounced things. Rival Wings, custom deliveries, and Wondrous Tails were all small pieces of content that were announced closer to being added in their patch. I wouldn't say we're going to have nothing to do the rest of the expansion.

Stormblood added rival wings, Khloe books were added prior to the end of HW however they dont really fill a gap, they were there to help recycle old content for modern rewards, same for custom deliveries were meant to be side stories unique to the characters at hand, but theyre kind of cast aside now and made plain for the sake of scrips, as far as expansion goes we have:
- Eureka Updates
- Palace of the Dead
- A Final Raid Tier
- A 24 man Raid
- Approximately 3 Dungeons
- Approximately 2 Primals
Sure we have "alot" to do upcoming, but alot of it also is stuff that has been delayed and stuff that should have realistically already been added, so if that is perspective then were gonna have another big drought like we did from 2.0 to 3.0.

[Vaer]

I'm confused by the black and white logic behind peoples arguments.

It's just an easy thing to blame for most of the player base. We lost x cuz of Ultimate. Now that Ultimate is going to stop, they're going to expect more content. If we still don't get more content and they can't blame Ultimate, they'll just move on to blaming something else. Eureka seems like a good replacement scapegoat.

[polyhedral]

I watched the streams as the few were fighting the latest ultimate. I enjoyed seeing them find enjoyment, but I knew I'd never step foot inside it.

I'd be ready to riot right next to some of you that are upset, IF I had seen 50k+ players watching the fights for hours on end. But that isn't what I was witnessing in those streams. Sure, it was exciting to see some streaming get near 3k viewers, but the other viewers numbers to other streamers during those single peak streamer numbers dropped off very much. It's almost as if most people only wanted to watch the more probable kill being streamed. I'm kinda kidding at that last comment. I'm sure most people only wanted to watch the most likely kill stream going on, from personal observation.

[Whocareswhatmynameis]

So is development going to go back into the main game or are we still going to get less dungeons per patch?

you know what this game needs? More dungeons that ARE EXACTLY THE SAME AS THE LAST 50 DUNGEONS.... lol

[Corue]

you know what this game needs? More dungeons that ARE EXACTLY THE SAME AS THE LAST 50 DUNGEONS.... lol

If SE'a answer to alternative content is recycling Diadem I'll take repetitive dungeons any day of the week.

[DrWho2010]

they also worry about player's health - when they hear stories of 21 hour/day prog and forgoing sleep to down these things that makes them rethink how many these they should put out.

[Alleo]

they also worry about player's health - when they hear stories of 21 hour/day prog and forgoing sleep to down these things that makes them rethink how many these they should put out.

Which means that they heard wrong informations because the world first group only did the 21 hour on their last day of prog and had quite a "normal" schedule for the rest of the days. So they did not do the 21 for five days. Also interesting how its again the playerbase that seemingly told them that its too much to handle so many Ultimates...I wonder if this is another "JP wanted Greed" point because I cant remember any post that stated how this is harsh for them.

[Rita1989]

Which means that they heard wrong informations because the world first group only did the 21 hour on their last day of prog.

You realize the devs can easily monitor how long people are spending on Ultimate through the game itself so they dont need to listen to rumors.

If I had to guess the participation was even lower then they expected and its already extremely niche content and beside maybe a couple of days of interest through streamers this content is completely irrelevant to over 99% of the population and once the hardcore raiders get through the fight in a couple of weeks the content basically becomes dead.

Also even though it reuses assets I imagine it basically requires the full time of one of their better battle designs to properly tune and balance the encounter.

I just hope with the elimination of Ultimate they can do something special leading into the next expansion as 3.55 was kind of a lame lead in to an expansion.

[Alleo]

You realize the devs can easily monitor how long people are spending on Ultimate through the game itself so they dont need to listen to rumors.

Still does not change the fact that the world first group did not raid for 21 hours per day and that it was a rumor. Yoshida stated that raiding so many hours is not good thus they seemingly heard the rumor and not numbers. (Or somehow the world first group lied and did so many hours which I cant believe)