BLM Utility ideas!

[Zerathor]

Keeping in mind that BLM is the best target for using manashift (for one having the most MP out of all casters and basically refreshing MP freely under UI)

Does "only manashift while under UI" and generally using anything ogcd after instantcast(proc)s no longer go without saying? I mean come on, I thought it was common knowledge by now that it wouldn't need to be cherrypicked on a post.

so the best suited job for mana shift is the one who can only do it at a minimal loss (still astronomically larger than smn) during a 2 gcd window every 30 seconds, or zero loss if by a chance you get a proc to occur in that 2 gcd window of that said 30 seconds? It does go without saying you only shift under UI, and try to use ogcd's during instant casts. Its those reasons why blm is horribly suited for mana shift in comparison to a job that essentially has zero mana problems and can shift for no dps loss at any point in their rotation.

[Remedi]

I think sfia in the mogtalk caster podcast talked heavily on the awkwardness of a temmate asking for MP and you answering that you can't do that yet.

The simply fact that you need to be in UI to even use the thing makes BLM the worst user of Mana shift, all the other casters can find a place to use it much easier than BLM

[Sunako]

Biggest problem with other casters is partysynergy between other meta jobs. Summooner have that synergy with 1min aetherflow timers, 30 sec dot timers and 60 sec rouse timers. From same reason mch is insanely good for speed kills because trick attack have 1min cd and 10 sec duration. Can you guess what is wildfire cooldown and duration? Exactly same than trick attack. MCH synergy is perfect between other meta jobs. But then we meet another problem. If you dont play with these meta jobs, do your job become underpowered? Mch is by far least played job in savage. It is actually pretty weak, if you dont perfectly line up your cooldowns.

[Aenar_Aenoquar]

BLM can use well manashift, its use is not different from how you use every single spell in the BLM's rotation, you have to plan it. Like when you are in a mindless spamming of fireIVs you are thinking where to go and what to use to max out your dps you should also look for healers MP and use manashift before they need to actually ask you for mana. That beign said ofc i agree, other casters are better suited, but don't think that manashift is bad for BLMs becouse that's not true. Also if you are in a situation where your healers are asking you for mps becouse they finished all their pool, using manashift won't make any difference...

[Zerathor]

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Again, it's more the issue of being a dps loss in your rotation every time you did it without weaving it behind a thundercloud proc during UI, unless it's in the middle of a downtime period you can't attack the boss. Doing it 3 times over a fight can equate to a spell being cut out. If that spell was a f4, that can be pretty big.

[Aenar_Aenoquar]

On A Kefka (savage) my total damage in normal Kefka was 2.35M and i casted 60 FIV with an average damage of 20k-->

(2.350-0.020)/2.350 = 0,9915 meaning overall damage loss is 0,85% ( considering a FIV beign cutted out)

Considering i casted 59 other spells during the fight i could naively say that the probability of that happening is 50% But that's overthinking, since manashift just shift your rotation by few seconds, so your dmg loss is an average of all your spells, so the idea is that you can do the average:

SUM (Spell's Average Damage*Number of casts) / SUM Number Of Casts --> For the same fight that gave me an average of 16.1 K per cast. So the loss should be something like (1- (2.35-0,016)/2.35)*100 = 0.68%

So on an average parser of 6k you loose 41 dps. And this is when you use manashift 3 times.

[Kabooa]

Summoner doesn't lose anything. They can weave it basically at will whenever Ruin 4 is available, or during Dreadwyrm Trance.

Or just take a minor loss via Ruin 2, which is used enough for any number of reasons that it's practically not a loss then.