Are the developers of XIV out of touch?

[KaldeaSahaline]

Except there are really not that many things going into the mogstation. this is so overblown...

I mean compared to its major competitor WoW, FF14's cash shop is significantly larger. In fact, just raw eyeing it looks to be in excess of 7x larger if we focus strictly on in game items/services (377/~50). If I'm wrong though let me know. Don't forget either that FF14 is less than half the age of WoW.

7x the cash shop content, despite being less than the half the age? Not exactly something to just simply hand wave away.

[Remedi]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...wow_and_other/

The cash shop is bloated by a bad decision on making old events items appearing on it otherrwise not many things are designed for it (also let's not forget that we asked the items of the Korean cashops which in the recent E3 round of interwiews Yoshida has specified that KR asks them to create such things and they are essentially property of KR not of SE)
It's worth taking a note to the fact that while cash shop items have been increaseing of late so have in-game rewards.

As such it's overblown, there are reasons to be angry like the events rewards but when you put it in prospective it's not really

[jameseoakes]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...wow_and_other/

It's worth taking a note to the fact that while cash shop items have been increaseing of late so have in-game rewards.

I'm not sure I'd agree with that, this patch feels pretty light on in game rewards so far, I mean they couldn't even be bothered to do a male glamour set this patch.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

I mean compared to its major competitor WoW, FF14's cash shop is significantly larger. In fact, just raw eyeing it looks to be in excess of 7x larger if we focus strictly on in game items/services (377/~50). If I'm wrong though let me know. Don't forget either that FF14 is less than half the age of WoW.

7x the cash shop content, despite being less than the half the age? Not exactly something to just simply hand wave away.

and 90% of the items in the cash shop were available in game to those who were subscribed at the time. 90% of the rest are reskins or alternate regions cash shop items. the amount of cash shop unique items is very low.

[KaivaC]

I know it's been a while since I personally touched on this subject, but I'm not sure it's so much that the devs are out of touch, it's that either them or Square itself that is afraid of major innovation. The most recent example I could think of was Eureka - surely, there was somebody on the team that had different ideas, but it felt like their fear of Eureka led them to ...create another Eureka with relics and nothing for DoH/DoLs. If it as truly as Yoshi P says and some of the requested features from the playerbase would create strain on the servers, my response to that would be, what was the whole point of moving the servers if not to lessen the strain on them? It feels like they are in a holding pattern, trying to reach 5.0 - it says as much when the last time Yoshi said something along the lines of 'if FFXIV survives past 5.0'. I dunno, that's not exactly a comforting thing to tell the playerbase that you want to retain.

[Aerlana]

and 90% of the items in the cash shop were available in game to those who were subscribed at the time. 90% of the rest are reskins or alternate regions cash shop items. the amount of cash shop unique items is very low.

my concern is only one thing

Today a new player comes in
On WoW he can buy around 500 euros of stuff
On FF he can buy around 900

In the way i watch, only "how much could be spent in" FFXIV is far worse than WoW

and exclusiv cash shop, only 10% sure? with all NPC outfit... most of the mount...

BTW, just stop saying "hey, wow is worse so, no problem" If i cut your arm but a friend of yours got his 2 arms cut by anyone else, you will be able to say "hey, finally you are not a so bad people, you did only cut one arm" ... This is the same thing each time you defend FFXIV saying "others are doing worse" I prefer to see what others do better... and how FFXIV can improve, more and more...

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

my concern is only one thing

Today a new player comes in
On WoW he can buy around 500 euros of stuff
On FF he can buy around 900

In the way i watch, only "how much could be spent in" FFXIV is far worse than WoW

and exclusiv cash shop, only 10% sure? with all NPC outfit... most of the mount...

BTW, just stop saying "hey, wow is worse so, no problem" If i cut your arm but a friend of yours got his 2 arms cut by anyone else, you will be able to say "hey, finally you are not a so bad people, you did only cut one arm" ... This is the same thing each time you defend FFXIV saying "others are doing worse" I prefer to see what others do better... and how FFXIV can improve, more and more...

I have yet to mention WoW. I have no experience in that game other than like... 12 years ago.

I have never once said XIV is perfect, I just think a lot of the issues people bring up are overblown.

[Remedi]

I'm not sure I'd agree with that, this patch feels pretty light on in game rewards so far, I mean they couldn't even be bothered to do a male glamour set this patch.

Allow me the shade, that's about every patch since launch though.

That aside the post I've linked was done before 4.3

[Alleo]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...wow_and_other/

The cash shop is bloated by a bad decision on making old events items appearing on it otherrwise not many things are designed for it

Lets not forget that every event item that is in there will be a new item for those that missed the event. So instead of getting it ingame they will have to pay cash. And yes the asian items are kinda fine since they are "exclusive" items but the shop has more than that too. Several exclusive mounts or re-colors, NPC gear and lets not forget the housing items that are cash shop only.

[Remedi]

Lets not forget that every event item that is in there will be a new item for those that missed the event. So instead of getting it ingame they will have to pay cash. And yes the asian items are kinda fine since they are "exclusive" items but the shop has more than that too. Several exclusive mounts or re-colors, NPC gear and lets not forget the housing items that are cash shop only.

He counted everything. The malice would say that since they added mogstation they stopped adding novelty items to the game which isn't the game.
However it's true that since their decision of putting all old events rewards to the mogstation there's a division on new players and subbed players.

As a subbed player the fact that they add an old item to the cash shop doesn't really have anything for me. However for a new player is ugly as you said.

However I hope that them readding the last year GS event rewards to the vendor instead of the cash shop might be a change into something (even though I don't believe it) maybe they simply did it because TT cards on the shop would've been pay 2 win, though that doesn't explain the haircut but w/e.

Also let me remind you my disdain for the addition of KR shop items, which goes long way to say how really things are in the community about cash shop items. Even some friends of mine are fine with emote on the cashshop. Frankly cash shop are a thing because ppl likes them so honestly speaking ppl that don't like them like myself are the minority