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  1. #161
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    Penthea's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remedi View Post
    The author of that essay said that he made a mistake and corrected it in never seen before in OUR MMO.
    I don't know if WoW did it before anyone else but they did do it a long time ago. Makes sense to know it was a mistranslation as I do remember it being a bit of a big deal back then.

    I admit I wasn't surprised when it happened in WoW because that sort of storytelling happened in the rts games it comes from. It felt like an appropriate nod to its roots. But I was surprised to see it in FFXIV because I'm so used to cutscenes telling us the story from another character's perspective.
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  2. #162
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asiragan View Post
    And I dare say that if someone really hated FFXIV, or didn't care enough about it, this person probably wouldn't be here posting in the first place.
    Exactly.

    Case in point, when I ventured off to play Blade and Soul for a spell after friends nudged me. I wound up leaving the game without so much of a word outside a single review post. Why? I wasn't invested nor cared to be. Therefore, I just quietly went away. People who dislike or hate something typically go away without much fanfare. Those criticising something usually do so because they care and want things to improve. Even if opinions ultimately differ on that subject.
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    Last edited by Bourne_Endeavor; 06-16-2018 at 07:13 PM.

  3. #163
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remedi View Post
    The author of that essay said that he made a mistake and corrected it in never seen before in OUR MMO

    directly from the reddit thread
    Yoshida: Also, we had a "never seen before in our MMO" (edited: he said we haven't done it in "our MMO")
    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme..._bad_news_for/
    Good to know and thanks for pointing it out. I was seriously a bit shocked that he truly believed that there was no other MMO that ever did that. Now that makes more sense, especially since he already played WoW. Just wished that the authors would check their translations more before posting it. We already had a mistranslation with the time of the Monster hunter event.
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    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

  4. #164
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    Good to know and thanks for pointing it out. I was seriously a bit shocked that he truly believed that there was no other MMO that ever did that. Now that makes more sense, especially since he already played WoW. Just wished that the authors would check their translations more before posting it. We already had a mistranslation with the time of the Monster hunter event.
    To be fair, fans translation are always to take with a grain of salt until we get an official one (if we ever do get one).

    But you are right in saying that the should double check their work before releasing it.

    Thanks for the clarification, Remedi.
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  5. #165
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    I think this topic can apply to all MMO developers. In the beginning they are super in touch with their fan base but once they get a stable player base it all starts going down hill due to arrogance. They start doing things that will make them more money to the detriment of the players at times. Of course this is only my opinion. /shrug
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  6. #166
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asiragan View Post
    Huh... Didn't WOW made this since Lich King or Cataclysm?
    Nexon's MMO Mabinogi did this before Legion I think. Must have been at least 10 years ago.
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  7. #167
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slirith View Post
    Of course this is only my opinion. /shrug
    This is what it always boils down to, to be brutally honest.
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    If you say so.

  8. #168
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    Hot take: Yes and No.

    Sure, we don't get everything we ask for, but there's enough shit added to this game that it's obvious they're listening loud and clear. We got a bunch of cutesy hairstyles and glamour every now and then. We're getting Cloud's ugly ass bike. ffs, they're even entertaining the idea of adding Viera to the game. It's clear they're not above adding anything the community begs for if it's possible.
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  9. #169
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    They are extremely out of touch when it comes to certain matters.

    Such as them only seeming to realize that people have been using real-time datamining to cheese raid mechanics as of UwU despite that fact that they've been doing it since 2.x and there were complaints about it back then, too.

    That might just be because they mostly pay attention to the JP side of things, though.
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  10. #170
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    I feel like there's a huge communication issue more than anything else.

    Like, JP gets nearly all the Live Letters, the walks with Yoshi-P, the teasers and news snippets. We have to wait for a major event like E3 to get anything approaching that level of communication- everything else is up to fans or waiting a few weeks for what they feel like giving us. That's awful. It's most obvious when we report stuff like the Ungarmax exploit and there's streams, video proof, and personal reports being submitted in English and SE doesn't respond until JP reports it too. Our botting problem may as well not exist because JP doesn't have the same issues. And so on. I think the devs are responsive to what they know about- wanting Need back, wanting more glamour, wanting more varied activities to do in the game, etc. But as dev cycles are long and we hardly hear ANYTHING on this side until it's announced globally, it's easy to see why western fans feel frustrated.

    In general I think the game is not going to change much, for better or worse. We will keep getting what we've always gotten and SE will keep giving it to us with a "take it or leave it" attitude. Nothing will change until a lot of people leave and few newcomers replace them.
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    Last edited by Hestzhyen; 06-17-2018 at 08:28 AM.

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