Are the developers of XIV out of touch?

[Enla]

They probably even had hoverboards.

Plus FF14 has such a weird mix of modern, fantasy, scifi, aesthetics that a motorcycle isn't at all out of place.

[Maeka]

Plus FF14 has such a weird mix of modern, fantasy, scifi, aesthetics that a motorcycle isn't at all out of place.

The Omega facility in Aysz Lla or however you spell it had freaking holographic computer displays, and a giant flatscreen monitor built into the wall that's better than the stuff we have IRL!

Motorcycles were invented in the 1900s and they didn't have computers back then.

They got machineguns (last boss of Doma Castle has one), cannons, chainsaws, missiles, grenades and freaking VTOL jet aircraft (in Meridianum for example).... but a motorbike? Nope, we can't have any of THOSE around!

[Penthea]

The Omega facility in Aysz Lla or however you spell it had freaking holographic computer displays, and a giant flatscreen monitor built into the wall that's better than the stuff we have IRL!

Motorcycles were invented in the 1900s and they didn't have computers back then.

They got machineguns (last boss of Doma Castle has one), cannons, chainsaws, missiles, grenades and freaking VTOL jet aircraft.... but a motorbike? Nope, we can't have any of THOSE around!

Not even that...the garleans have gigantic airships and nobody complains about that, but something as technologically inferior as a bicycle with a motor is somehow immersion breaking? Please xD

[Slirith]

The Omega facility in Aysz Lla or however you spell it had freaking holographic computer displays, and a giant flatscreen monitor built into the wall that's better than the stuff we have IRL!

Motorcycles were invented in the 1900s and they didn't have computers back then.

They got machineguns (last boss of Doma Castle has one), cannons, chainsaws, missiles, grenades and freaking VTOL jet aircraft (in Meridianum for example).... but a motorbike? Nope, we can't have any of THOSE around!

Can't use logic on these immersion idiots. It's Final Fantasy fantasy only or bust to them.

[Asiragan]

According to the physics of Hydaelyn, what allows something to fly is how your body processes wind aether, having wings is not necessary

That's what they said on the T-rex description, yes. That the wind aether changed it,but it would still needs some physical change to it. Or else, the whole theory of evolution wouldn't apply to Hydaelyn and birds wouldn't needs wings to fly. It's most likely that a being or a machine would need tremendous amount of aether to be able to fly without wings or proper device.
And don't tell me the namazu are flying the mikoshi with sheer willpower alone x)


Tough it's out of topic, it's probably a really interesting discussion and something to see on the lore forum.

Can't use logic on these immersion idiots. It's Final Fantasy fantasy only or bust to them.

It's still interesting to see if something fits the lore. If you just accept everything cool without caring about it, you will just end up with something really idiotic like space demons flying in galactic ships trying to take hold of a well of power or something like that.

[Remedi]

That's what they said on the T-rex description, yes. That the wind aether changed it,but it would still needs some physical change to it. Or else, the whole theory of evolution wouldn't apply to Hydaelyn and birds wouldn't needs wings to fly. It's most likely that a being or a machine would need tremendous amount of aether to be able to fly without wings or proper device.
And don't tell me the namazu are flying the mikoshi with sheer willpower alone x)


Tough it's out of topic, it's probably a really interesting discussion and something to see on the lore forum.

Well aether does affect the physiology of a creature as we've seen with what happens if you happen to bathe too much in a primal's eather

[Berethos]

And don't tell me the namazu are flying the mikoshi with sheer willpower alone x)

Not when they are hanging on for dear life.

In-game explanation is of a similar bent to how the flying chair (made by Alchemists) works - enough Cloudsbreath added during construction (intended to make it easier/light enough to carry for the Namazu) had the additional effect of aspecting it enough to wind that it can fly.

[Asiragan]

Well aether does affect the physiology of a creature as we've seen with what happens if you happen to bathe too much in a primal's eather

Hmm, then why is the T-rex not showing any change? I mean, okay I can let it pass for the elephant since he can fly thanks to "magicked carpets affixed to its back". It's stupid but I can look away from this one.

Here's the item description from XIVDB :

Alarmed scholars report that the “T-Rex”—as it is called by those short on ink—has gained the power of flight through continued exposure to the Isle of Val's turbulent aether.

Wouldn't it make more sense if he some physiological modification if he was exposed so much to it? And wouldn't it take multiple generation before one of them gain the ability of flight?


Side note : I won't think the game is "unplayable" because of it. I just like to know how things tie to the lore. If the explanation is just "The T-rex can fly with the power of cool" then fine. I'll be slightly annoyed, but I can live with it.

Not when they are hanging on for dear life.

In-game explanation is of a similar bent to how the flying chair (made by Alchemists) works - enough Cloudsbreath added during construction (intended to make it easier/light enough to carry for the Namazu) had the additional effect of aspecting it enough to wind that it can fly.

Oh yeah, I remember them saying something about making it "lighter". Which is probably why they are hanging to it, now that you mention it...

[Remedi]

Hmm, then why is the T-rex not showing any change? I mean, okay I can let it pass for the elephant since he can fly thanks to "magicked carpets affixed to its back". It's stupid but I can look away from this one.

Here's the item description from XIVDB :


Wouldn't it make more sense if he some physiological modification if he was exposed so much to it? And wouldn't it take multiple generation before one of them gain the ability of flight?


Side note : I won't think the game is "unplayable" because of it. I just like to know how things tie to the lore. If the explanation is just "The T-rex can fly with the power of cool" then fine. I'll be slightly annoyed, but I can live with it.
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We don't really know because they haven't gone on a lenghty explanation on how it happens, they have just done a quest about it to explain the change on the pirates of sastasha and that was it we don't know exactly how much aether it takes to create mutations or how long it tales to be able to fly, we don't even know if it's something that can be easily learned, we do know however that a good win aetherconduction can effortlessly make island float though

[Berethos]

Wouldn't it make more sense if he some physiological modification if he was exposed so much to it? And wouldn't it take multiple generation before one of them gain the ability of flight?

Worth noting:

There seems to be two possibilities - either they have been around for a while and developed the ability, as Eureka - once known as the Isle of Val - was described during those quests as being a fairly dangerous place in the first place, and part of why they chose that region...or what happened to it - the event that registered magicks related to dimensional compression - caused a significant enough shift that creatures on the island were simply warped in ways that changed them without requiring several generations of genetic development.