Are the developers of XIV out of touch?

[Remedi]

Eureka is not a core feature.

I don't like racing games

Cod and battelfield have been notorious in rehashing their formulas too much and ppl buys them mostly because the fear of older games diying off

Content is designed for more than yourself deal with it. I've said plently that PVP is trash tier content for me but I don't ask for them to stop working on it even though imho it would be the best thing ever since it won't ever work, but honestly I deal with it since it's fine that not everything in a MMO is designed to be of my liking or suit the masses.
Heck remove savage then it only works for 10% of the playerbase! I mean seriously....

Lov is overxtending because they wanted to add too many things to the table just making it a short minigame would've made it too popular instead they wanted to make several pointless additions to it for no reason

Duty recorder is not really a bad thing but they limited the use of it to 1 duty alone/patch for apparently no reason, they made you impossible to watch it unless you are in an inn, otherwise it would be very useful to raiding, True you can do that already with twitch and other media, but it's not a bad thing per se only the implementation has been ass

I don't know that they take infos from streams, I DO know that they watch them, I DO know they've been using them for promotions too as such they DO use them in some forms. Yes it's my opinion but I have enough evidence to make the claim that companies have been using streamers as Class A gamers for some times now and eprsonally speaking I'm not okay with this. Ofc they also take infos from other sources I'm not saying that streamers are the only source, but considering how streamers were invited in the press conference well I do think that they hold them in high esteem

[Remedi]

and the difference from a forum goer is...? I said they use them to guage, not that they take them as stone cold truth.

Also why not Klopsgg aka laylabell or frosty? It's that a personal bias against mrhappy? There are plenty more of them you know? I made this point yes but I'd like ppl not to start a witch hunt

@kisaitenshi props for someone stating what exactly is journalism

[Alleo]

and the difference from a forum goer is...? I said they use them to guage, not that they take them as stone cold truth.

I think the difference is that streamers do make money of FF14 while normal forum posters dont and just play it as a game they can drop. I am not saying that Mr Happy or other famous youtube streamers would only praise the game but I am also not sure if they would truly be negative about it. Be too negative and they could lose invitations or interview rights with SE. But again I am not saying that its like that just that this could be the case for some.

And even if streamers have thousands of viewers still would not make them a good way to get info (and I know you said that it was not your view either) because they still dont know if people simply watch it because of the person or because they like the content.

[Remedi]

There's no difference both are opinionated and both can and will drop games, streamers more so if that is not even profitable. Also maybe It's been just me watching him complaining about a damn PTR every time or being very critical of many aspects of the game by saying just as anybody else why they even added [insert random feature here] to the game because nobody asked that.
So ye they are both humans and prone to the same mistakes

Even though you say it's not a good way to test the waters, it's something that not just SE but many other companies have been spending resources on, they are using them for promotions and invite them to press events, they listen to their feedback for sure or at the very least they are interested in their opinion.
Take this however you will but it's a fact.
Or I've imagined streamers at SB press event or KH3 press event

[Remedi]

I can agree to that idd

[Remedi]

Eureka is a feature of stormblood, but not a core content of the game, it's a side content, the core of the game is rapresented by it's content and it's gear progression and will always be about raids, which is why nothing in the patch cycle can ever go beyond that power level or else we've seen that with the diadem weapons backlash. Also I refuse to call anything coming so late in the expansion to be a core of the game. It's a sidecontent at best but nothing more

I can't be more specific than this, I don't like racing games as such I'm not interested in them in any way, If you think that what you want would make chocobo racing better suit yourself, won't change my mind though.

I answer C which is a middle of both, I hope my sarcasm was taken in when I asked for the removal of savage but I guess I should've been clearer, but honestly I think that making things black and white is not a good way of handling anything, my point in fact is that an MMO should find a balance in what it does and atm FFXIV is too much casual imho. Some content should have multiple gamestyle yes, but designing for a narrower audience is not a bad thing either. I don't remember what you think about ultimate, but it's a resounding success more than anything SE ever added to the game and it's clearable byu 1% of the community. In the same way Mythic argus and other mythic bosses were clearable by that much ppl on wow in all of it's history (though nice of blizzard of extra buffing all ppl from now till BFA btw that allowed argus kills to be x4 in a matter of days).
I'd rather see an end to the casual vs hardcore nonsense mentality of late but I digress

I'm saying that a minigame shouldn't last too long, you are not buying FFXIV to play LOV

It's what I'm saying, I'm not defeding the recorder in it's current state, I'm saying that we shoudln't berate the idea but we should breate how it was implemented

What you say it's true, but it doesn't deny what I'm saying, It's why speedrunner streamers of KH3 were invited to KH3 event and were asked what they thought about the game after the play sessions. Since they create a talking community with ppl, they are a group of ppl that have an opinion of a game as such it's an aggregation and they can be used effectively as a feedback source.

[KaldeaSahaline]

Eureka is a feature of stormblood, but not a core content of the game

I never said it was core content to the game (that's a reductive statement anyway), I clearly specified core feature of the expansion, to which it is, no matter what our personal opinions are (because I actually agree that I wouldn't call it that, but SE does, therefore it is).

I can't be more specific than this, I don't like racing games as such I'm not interested in them in any way, If you think that what you want would make chocobo racing better suit yourself, won't change my mind though.

If your level of critical thinking prevents you from providing specifics on why you don't like racing games, than I'll say this frankly. Your opinion on the topic should never have been stated. If you have no investment in that aspect of the game, you shouldn't have wasted my time or yours commenting on how you disagree with something you have no interest or investment in.

I answer C which is a middle of both

This is not a valid answer. You either believe that reductive design is better (i.e. common denominator design) or robust design is better (i.e. built ground up, and add common denominator later).

So which is it?

but honestly I think that making things black and white is not a good way of handling anything, my point in fact is that an MMO should find a balance in what it does and atm FFXIV is too much casual imho.

It's not a black and white or a them vs. us. You're not understanding what I am saying. It's very simple. You have to decide on a overarching design methodology at some point. SE chose to do a reductive design where most (honestly, if not all) content is designed for a very specific isolated narrow purpose and is such either A) dead on arrival due to the limited participants not liking it or B) dead later because it's built for a singular purpose for a singular playertype and wears off really quickly.

Some content should have multiple gamestyle yes, but designing for a narrower audience is not a bad thing either. I don't remember what you think about ultimate, but it's a resounding success more than anything SE ever added to the game and it's clearable byu 1% of the community.

I love the idea of Ultimate, but not the implementation. I'm old now so 20 minute boss fights aren't really fun for me anymore. They were never really fun back in my teens/20s either though. My static and I (filthy casuals) made it to Ifrit in less than 3 hours of prog, but they wanted to push a 3 day a week schedule to clear it and I really wanted 1-2. I really liked the pacing of UwU, but it's honestly still 4 minutes too long IMO. I even think half of Savage bosses are too long, and don't even get me started on how long the normal versions take. (easily 10-12+ minutes).

That said - please understand that I do understand and agree that designing SOME content for a narrow audience is ok. I just don't think the existing design schema where all content is designed for a narrow audience is the best approach.

I'd rather see an end to the casual vs hardcore nonsense mentality of late but I digress

? Where was this brought up anywhere? I'm as casual of a player as one can be.

I'm saying that a minigame shouldn't last too long, you are not buying FFXIV to play LOV

I get that I do, but at the same time, why can't it be? Why can't Bliztball be such an awesome minigame that it could have been a full standalone title? That to me sounds like strong design and an enticement to get players back in etc. Same with something like Bo' racing, Squadron stuff, etc.

[Remedi]

So I need to answer your question depending on how you like them? I gave you a perfect explanation on many topics if you want the answers YOU want I'm done.
Also btw if a core feature needs to be released in 2 patches after release MAYBE it wasn't a core feature afterall. BTW I'm still waiting on the dance studio for wotlk, the one that was on the box and was announced as a feature but NEVER happened. So no, if it was sent back this far It wasn't a core feature at all or else it would've been on release. For all we know they could've scrapped it like the dance studio.

Also don't ignore that I've said that if you believe that your additions would make chocobo race more fun I have no qualms against it, I just said it won't bother me eitherway

[SmokeyTheSequel]

I just want some new hair options that look absurd on a male character. I finally caved in and switched to a female character (something I have never done) because the options for males are pretty much nonexsistant.

[hynaku4494]

Pretty sure they are or we seen a butt slider by now and no gender locked outfits.