Are the developers of XIV out of touch?

[Vhailor]

I think these are great suggestions. As far as content for larger parties I don't even think it would be difficult for them to implement. I would even be for a system where you could do existing content with larger parties and the difficulty would scale with it.

These would be good steps, I second that. I also think it'd be great to see - which is implied but not explicitly stated here - the flexibility to run content without having exact numbers of people. Part of what made FFXI's content so flexible is that you didn't need to have exactly 6 people in a party, exactly 18 people in an Alliance, exactly X healers, Y tanks, Z damage-dealers. I don't think it's any surprise that Palace of the Dead was the most successful content off-shoot that SE designed: it features precisely this flexibility. It would be fantastic if this flexibility could extended to other areas of the game. I particularly think that it would be a boon for statics, because it would reduce the difficulties associated with a member not show up occasionally.

[Freyar]

--Just Bitter--

Considering that I run three alliance raids in a row, and there is literally zero pieces of gear up for my role (I'd be okay if I just lost the roll, that's fine, I know RNGesus hates me, that much was beaten into me during the Atma phases..)? I'd like to think so. Even the same exact piece of BLM gear dropped twice multiple times in this raid each run I went though. -_-

--Ending Bitter--

[Remedi]

off topèic for a bit, but objetcivity in rewiews is why I stop reading/listening to rewiews after they've done showing the technical part of the game, since they hide too much behind the rewiews can't be objective card while totalbiscuit called them out that they should strive for objectivity since rewiews are not meant to be read just by your parents that are set to tell you how smart and good you are. You are writing articles that should present something to a massive audience as such you should do your best to present it in the most unbiased way possible, which doesn't mean you can't display your feelings on the item, but you essentially need to make sure ppl with different tastes than yours can understand what the game is about. If you are not able to than just follow the type of games you like and don't follow the trends for the wiews.
/Rant /off topic

[Dyvid]

Well it's possible to have both vertical and horizontal. Vertical would be the current design on stat boost were as horizontal would be materia that would enhance your job's abilities and skills.

[Remedi]

They watch streamers, that's how they take their infos.
Consider that Frosty's podcast on eureka had more or less a positive outlook, so kinda mrhappy and arthars too, If as I suspect they use streamers as an aggregator of ppl for infos it might be possible that idd they are the sources, This is probably true cosnidering also that companies are idd using streamers for this in recent years (Take notice of the overly cordial tone of mrhappy's interwiew with yoshida too) I'm not saying that they are the devil mind you, but since they have an aggregation power far greater than the OF (which is by some considered a cesspit of drama) thy might idd be a better way to gauge interest, though Imho there's bias of the streamer, which imho makes it a bit unreliable

Also they clearly read reddit considering the time it took for that post regarding RMT to appear and a reminder from SE to not do that to be posted on the lodestone. They have a problem in telling you about what they are listening but they do listen

[Alleo]

They watch streamers, that's how they take their infos.
Consider that Frosty's podcast on eureka had more or less a positive outlook, so kinda mrhappy and arthars too, If as I suspect they use streamers as an aggregator of ppl for infos it might be possible that idd they are the sources,

Also they clearly read reddit considering the time it took for that post regarding RMT to appear and a reminder from SE to not do that to be posted on the lodestone. They have a problem in telling you about what they are listening but they do listen

But a view streamers do not make a whole playerbase. And reddit itself was pretty negative about it too. There was a thread with over 1000 upvotes and it was really negative. If thats how they get their informations, then no wonder that we got Diadem 2.0..

[Remedi]

But a view streamers do not make a whole playerbase. And reddit itself was pretty negative about it too. There was a thread with over 1000 upvotes and it was really negative. If thats how they get their informations, then no wonder that we got Diadem 2.0..

I was not impliying it's the correct way to do, perhaps it's the lazyest one and frankly I've some bias against doing it. I'd rather not tell my feelings on this since I'd rather not cause drama over something I don't have proof off
However take note that a streamer can hold up to 500 wiewers (well much more but I haven't seen them having that many wiews outside ultimate) each as such the 1k upvotes are quite a small numbers when many streamers are stacked up

Unraleted but regarding horizzonal progress:

From how I see it, we lack inventory space, stats and content for it to be a thing, if you don't change any of these you'll jave ppl just getting whatever gear that has the highest crit that is the avaible on them.

[Remedi]

Exactly my criticism, In retrospect I'm kinda baffled that the made potd so right yet they botched the entry experience on Eureka, it really tells that they didn't had the same devs on it. Unless as you say it was made deliberate to slow ppl down.

[Dzian]

The reason why we need grinding back is because there is a intense lack of long term goals, also I'd rather ppl stop using fun as a way to judge content since it's a very subjective choice, some find fun Eureka others don't, just as some like testing themselves in ultimate while others prefer 24 man raids.
Since MMOs targets a wide audience it's impossible to use fun as a metric at all.
I'd rather gut myself than play PvP, but I don't think that Pvpers shouldn't get content at all because of that for example or that they shouldn't receive what they ask of the devs

It's not grinding that lacks long term goals it's that nothing is worth grinding for.

At the current speed of progression long term goals are simply impossible. And any form of grind is largely unacceptable because the rewards At the end just aren't worth any form of grind to get.

You see it a lot even on the forums. So many people say they don't bother with raiding or anything simply because the rewards at the end just aren't worth the grind or the effort. Everything in xiv is incredibly temporary and short lived.

Adding any form of long term goals is simply impossible because the treadmill is so fast that the rewards would be obsolete before players even got close to finishing said grind..

This is why I really don't put much effort into gear because of how quick it's invalidated.. There's just no point.. But then if it wasn't for friends and social connections I wouldn't even play to be honest..

I really wish the game had moreblongevity and substance. Or anything meaningful to actually do.

[Remedi]

You mean that patches and/Or ilvl increases should be more spread out or you mean like last tier raid gear should matter for the new one?

Because I honestly can see the problems you are talking about but aside spreading patch release or making raid gear matter more I don't really see much more solutions