Thread: Healer Wishlist for 5.0

Continuing where I went off:

SCH
1. Do something more with the Faerie Gauge. You could have a DPS ability that uses some or another heal or support ability or something...
2. Remove or Change Silent Dusk on Selene. Even with all Fairy skills becoming Abilities that take priority over whatever your fairy was doing, this is very niche. You first have to have no one else in your party who can Stun (Tanks or Range with Role Class, MNK, DRG, or even a WHM with Holy. There's also AST but they shouldn't be using Celestial Opposition to Stun things), then you have to have Selene out over Eos, who is more valued right now. You could replace it with another support ability or maybe a version of Eos's Whispering Dawn so Selene can have some healing support.
3. Just have the Fairy float and follow who they are tethered when under Fey Union.
4. A way to refresh DoTs.

WHM
1. Lillies. Do something with them.
2. Do something with Fluid Aura. In my dream world, Fluid Aura would do damage and not have knockback.
3. Maybe have Presence of Mind and Thin Air effected by Lillies.
4. Have a way for HoTs to give Lillies, whether it be RNG or doing x-amount of tics or something.

Originally Posted by Miles_Maelstrom

snnip.

So...
- Emergency Tactic (Deployement Tactic?)
- Not being able to buff Eos (altough she's been buffed to compensate)
- Dissipation


3 weird "broken" things and the job needs a "Major" rework?

Also when you talk about "Emergency Tactic" I assume you actually meant "Deployment Tactic". Emergency Tactic is the skill that turns your shield into a heal.

Imo only Deployment Tactic needs a proper rework since, as you mentionned you can only spread your shield now.
Also, I consider the combo Shieldcrit+Emergency Tactic to be too strong but that's a different topic. And why do we even care about E4E spread?

Regarding the Fairy, I really don't see the problem, you can't do the brain dead "rouse + Whispering Dawn" but to compensate they buffed Whispering Dawn potency.
Overall it's still a slight nerf to that specific skill but now you can actually use Rouse whenever you actually want more heal.
And I mean, the #1 issue about Whispering Dawn was adressed!

Regarding Dissipation I agree about the apparent contradiction between the buff and the stack.
But this is not a SCH problem, it's an overall game design issue. Every single ability in the game doesn't scale from buff/debuff.
Every single job are affected by that, Tetragram, EartlyStar, Essential Dignity etc etc.
Dissipation received a good fix in... 4.2? (or was it 4.1?), the cast and cost reduction on fairies made the skill much better overall and it's actually something you can play around.

I actually use it quite often now when I know I won't need my fairy for the next 30sec and I could use 3 more stacks to speed up my Aetherflux cd and pile up more.
The only big problem left is that you get no Fairy Gauge while the fairy's gone (so that's potentially 60 points you miss before you call her back)


So, I don't say everything is perfect, but "a major rework" is a bit of a stretch

Originally Posted by Miles_Maelstrom

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I always put this up did you know scholars the only job that doesn\\'t have a proc or combo based off their base action for their role

Well I don\\'t see the problem with that. Like, so you even use physic enough to miss something like that? These proc are rather useless since they proc out of a skill we barely use. (I still get your point, but I don\\'t see it as a problem from both a design and balance pov.)

Personnally the more unique healer are the better. For instance the sheer ressemblance between AST diurnal and WHM is something that I find much more concerning.

So I understand that the direction SCH is taking might displease you but imo Sch is actually in the best position both design and balance wise. It has the most unique mechanic and skills. ( but this comes down to preferences so theres little point arguing over that)

The integration of healing and dps abilities to help fuel each other would be my #1 wish for 5.0. More than Dancer, more than Viera, more than WHM getting buffed.

SE needs to come out in favor of healer dps in a real way so that that entire debate can just finally die.

It does make me wonder what a dancer-healer would be like if ever.

I DO hope they'll be healers in 5.0.

Originally Posted by Ing-Dono

I'd be down with that, a nice buff for WHM's to give that somewhat fits the job. (seeing as we already have Presence of Mind)

I'd think that it would fit Astros more, since they already have time-based magic.

Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki

SE needs to come out in favor of healer dps in a real way so that that entire debate can just finally die.

I don't see why they would need to do such a thing.
Also, SE stance on that debate is very clear, they don't want to force dps on healer which is why they balance content without healer dps contribution for dps check (altough I suspect this to not be true for last savage tier and especially ultimate)

So technically there is no debate, we just keep arguing and talking about that but if there's one thing you can be sure won't happen, it's that healer will be tuned around actively smashing the boss. (unless y.p has a drastic change of mindset)

Originally Posted by Sylvain

I don't see why they would need to do such a thing.
Also, SE stance on that debate is very clear, they don't want to force dps on healer which is why they balance content without healer dps contribution for dps check (altough I suspect this to not be true for last savage tier and especially ultimate)

So technically there is no debate, we just keep arguing and talking about that but if there's one thing you can be sure won't happen, it's that healer will be tuned around actively smashing the boss. (unless y.p has a drastic change of mindset)

I put it in another thread, but DPS isn't just raids, dungeons, and trials. It is also needed solo in instances, where I have needed multiple echo's to do enough damage before a phase or I'd get swamped and no amount of holy's could get me out until I had the echo. That content also needs to be balanced for healer DPS too.