That didn't take long

[Riardon]

They still didn't fix the diadem when people complained about the same thing years ago, when gear was greed only.
With the backlash they got from the diadem, they shouldn't have made the alliance raids greed only in the first place.

Diadem never existed. It was one of the most failed content in XIV ever. So much that they considered to completely remove it from the game and place the rewards on an NPC with tomestones as a payment.
Diadem arrived dead the 24 man raids is a different story. They decided to throw a super dumb idea on them suddenly for silly reasons only SE knows.
The backlash was too big to ignore and the 24 man raids too important to let fail so they were pretty quick on removing that silly Greed only "feature"

[NessaWyvern]

Diadem never existed. It was one of the most failed content in XIV ever. So much that they considered to completely remove it from the game and place the rewards on an NPC with tomestones as a payment.

And then they released a worse version of the Diadem called Eureka Anemos Instead of everyone being able to mount up and grind mobs, they made it so you had to level up first! And to force people to do it, they locked relic gear behind it.

[SinisterJoints]

And then they released a worse version of the Diadem called Eureka Anemos Instead of everyone being able to mount up and grind mobs, they made it so you had to level up first! And to force people to do it, they locked relic gear behind it.

But eureka has full instances daily and people enjoy it. So yea... there is that. The only thing worse than Diadem is your post! You may not like it, but others do...

[LineageRazor]

To be fair, the Greed-only thing was more of a problem for older raids than for the current raid. In the current raid, gear is still locked and none of it can be desynthed or exchanged for GC points. Basically, if someone is rolling against you, it's because they actually need the gear (possibly for glamour, but that's still a need) - they aren't just lotting items willy-nilly. Players (tanks especially, who previously had NO competition) DID wind up having more competition than they used to, but not a lot more competition.

It's the older raids for which this change was an unmitigated disaster. Anyone can lot anything for any reason in the older raids, and that meant that folks looking for specific pieces of gear (generally for glamour) had competition from people with non-specific reasons for wanting the gear (desynth and GC points). Many folks lot everything in those raids, and sort out later how they want to process the pieces they get.

But eureka has full instances daily and people enjoy it. So yea... there is that. The only thing worse than Diadem is your post! You may not like it, but others do...

In all fairness, Eureka is current, with relevant gear, while the Diadem is dated. I'll confess that I pretty much gave up on Diadem forever when I saw the dino-grind the original version became - but much later on, I occasionally tagged along for Diadem v2.0 parties looking to collect Spoils to get the mount, and found that the changes had MUCH improved it. There was actually incentive to do things other than mindlessly grind mobs, to actually complete the Diadem quests assigned. I never saw an Emergency Mission, but if this was the Diadem that had been there originally, I probably would have spent more time there. And I say all this as someone who actually enjoyed Eureka.

[Kaoru_Nagisa]

But eureka has full instances daily and people enjoy it. So yea... there is that. The only thing worse than Diadem is your post! You may not like it, but others do...

I can assure you, most of the people I know who are almost constantly in Eureka are not in there because they enjoy it - quite the opposite, actually. But it was literally the only content available for a long dry spell between patches, and SE locked dyeable AF gear behind it, not to mention the relic. But I don't think I've ever seen anyone in-game who legitimately enjoyed Eureka.

On-topic though: I will actually be running the full length of Ridorana as my healer once more, as I had wanted to do before not only hearing of... but seeing how bad the All Greed BS was. I don't really know what SE was expecting when they dumped that in, but I'm happy the change has been reversed and things are proper once more.

[Liam_Harper]

But eureka has full instances daily and people enjoy it. So yea... there is that. The only thing worse than Diadem is your post! You may not like it, but others do...

What's there to enjoy? Is it the 20 minutes half afk at Hazmat so you can zerg him with 150 people, collect a reward and move onto the next to repeat? Or the hour killing the same mob over and over in a group of 8 to gain a single level and no real reward?

The full instances are because you can cap mendacity, get decent alt gear, get your relic weapon and get a huge pile of materia to sell in one go.

Not denying some might enjoy that sort of content, but I very much doubt everyone is in there for the fun of it. I personally refuse to step foot in the place.

[KDSilver]

Well... people asked for it so...
Yeah ?

[Hakuro89]

I still find it funny that they changed it back before they could even bring it up at their Q&A event. That post had more upvotes than anything else in the entire thread.

[KDSilver]

Saying Eureka is worse than Diadem is really bad faith considering the poor interaction we had with other players winthin the instance while Eureka encourages communication and teamplay.
But whatever, we're not here to talk about that.

[NessaWyvern]

Saying Eureka is worse than Diadem is really bad faith considering the poor interaction we had with other players winthin the instance while Eureka encourages communication and teamplay.
But whatever, we're not here to talk about that.

Eh? It's almost exactly the same thing. Down to the "where's the train at" back in the day, it used to be either dinos at one island, or dinos at another island. And you needed a LOT of communication to clear the mini-raid in the middle of the Diadem. Now with eureka, you just form a party while you in there, rather than before you enter. And when you're battling a tough boss such as the Brachiosaur, or the annoying Celphie, raises and heals from other parties were plentiful. In the diadem, almost everyone was helping kill mobs, now it's only 1/4 of the players in Anemos killing stuff because the rest are too low leveled.