Thread: The Culling: Moving into 5.0

I'm wholeheartedly against skills being culled anymore in 5.0.
The low-level experience since Stormblood dropped has been an absolute snoozefest. If more skills are removed or condensed then we're essentially gonna be seeing 2-button rotations until we hit 50.
Plus there really isn't any room to add more buttons for most jobs. The bloat is already at the breaking point.

Honestly what I'd like to see is optional variants on existing skills and rotations in the form of selectable passives.
i.e., maybe allow people to tweak their rotations to spread their damage more evenly, instead of being so focused on burst windows - or maybe allow people to give up some personal DPS in exchange for party buffs/enemy debuffs.

Originally Posted by Jandor

Culling and shifting some skills down to lower levels can both be done at the same time.

In my opinion classes should be mostly complete by level 30, getting your job and getting it to 50 should be about getting your gauge and your basic gameplay loop, and the rest of the way to 70 (soon 80) is getting new toys and fleshing out your kit a bit more.

This. We may need a few more trait-based toys to further increase skill ceiling between 50 and 80, but right now it feels like the ability/trait growth over those levels has been used as an excuse -- atop the dev's poor opinion of players despite a refusal to integrate meaningful support or learning systems -- to create newer kinds of content over the course of leveling that would extend an even, reasonable difficulty curve by which to test one's abilities already given in new contexts, requiring ingenuity and a greater understanding of the kit.

I want absolutely nothing changed for Astrologian. The class is perfect. I’ve been playing it since 3.0, and would be completely devastated if it were ruined.

However, I am fine with other healing classes becoming more equal with it. I also hope that should there be a new healer, that it would get equal attention.

Honestly, I would be happy if 5.0 added some button consolidations like mentioned previously, and all the new Job features were traits, that made things more powerful/work in new and interesting ways. I feel that most traits are rather bland, and it seems like an aspect of the Jobs that is rather underdeveloped compared to the actions.