So about Summoner...

[Wayfinder3]

This is a tool that's only so useful though, and its use can be just as easily overblown as it can be underappreciated.

Yes but you can’t give appropriate value to something based off of how niche it is. Verraise can work in or out of prog and this should be balanced around the idea of raising players with the greatest of ease. You can go into detail about mp but there are tools on other jobs that they’re balanced around to handle that. RDM is a victim of its utility, ask for them to remove it. Then RDM becomes a great value SMN or vice versa. A lot people like to pin verraise as a curse which it is but it’s also the only thing keeping the job relevant and, the casters relatively balanced.

i'll give an example, $25 in paper money is generally better than $25 worth of pennies however, thats only because of how convenient it is but, the $25 worth of pennies is still equivalent to $25 dollars in cash and thus demands respect regardless of how cumbersome or flawed it actually is to use $25 worth of pennies so, the value is the same but it's just less efficient. This is essentially rdm out of progression, it's less efficient and loses some value in that right but it can still function the exact same way and situations where it could work are still applicable unless you're speed killing where resurrection is completely irrelevant.

If RDM gets a buff and loses verraise or it is changed to function as a normal rez spell and it's not stronger than SMN. Do you honestly believe the job will be better off, if so. then what of SMN since these 2 jobs will now officially have the same EXACT niche. Verraise gives the job an identity because nobody is speed killing with SMN because it can rez and, it's illogical to attribute rez in a speed killing enviorment as the reason for why SMN is better than RDM in that enviroment. The only way verraise can be completely worthless is if you're in an environment where death in general is unacceptable and the only time that happens is during speed killing and, thats only applicable to less than 1% of the player base. This is pretty much what xxPheNoMeNais trying to say. RDM's do have powerful utility, it's just not the utility that some want and thus should ask for something indicative of that, not nerfing SMN or overbuffing RDM