So about Summoner...

[xxPheNoMeNa]

Just to be clear, I'm not ignoring anything he said, and agree. I'm on his side mostly because being able to sit back and optimize with the team would push RDM's DPS up all on its own; that cooldown addition on its own would put it in the same tier as SMN, where it's good enough for prog, but has life and optimization outside of it as well.

That change alone wouldn't push it up to SMN's level. It would improve things definitely but it wouldn't be significant to the point of being comparable to SMN currently. I do think that's the one change that "should" be made currently for RDM, but nothing else. But regardless of that change happening or not, it wouldn't change the perception of the class

Whereas you, for the past few pages, instead of bringing this quote up, have just been saying "It hasn't been changed, the elites say it doesn't need changed, therefore it doesn't need changed." Then lo and behold I find one of Jump saying that somebody suggested a change he would like.

I've known about that quote since he said it but it's also not a change that most people here are referencing. Most people when complaining about the dps disparity just want direct potency buffs to "fix" it. His own quote "rather than a buff, we just need our rotation balanced". I've also mentioned earlier (probably days ago when I first posted in this thread) that all RDM needed was a rotational change for alignment purposes (which also coincides with embolden). He's also made comments in the past (like when 4.2 launched) when that discord channel blew up over "no RDM buffs" and he told them they didn't need one nor should they expect it.