So about Summoner...

[Maero]

Didn't they nerf Vercure potency from 400 to 350 :^)

That could very well be, i mean't more of actual changes that actually benefit the job. Every other job has seen at least some changes (even Sam as bad as some may think it is)

Vercure is a level 54 Spell while Verraise is Level 64. Summoner gets raise at level 18, so how is it that this is a valid arguement? Embolden is also very weak
Smn is equally as good for progression.
@ Neela, i am on the same boat as others in that i would like changes to embolden, a slight damage boost and possibly just remove verraise.
We had 3 Red Mages (including myself) when we started Savage, and well now i am Ninja and the other 2 are blm and smn.

[Neela]

@ Neela, i am on the same boat as others in that i would like changes to embolden, a slight damage boost and possibly just remove verraise.
We had 3 Red Mages (including myself) when we started Savage, and well now i am Ninja and the other 2 are blm and smn.

but that would f.e just balanced content like eureka not potd/hoh - vercure is the key skill for necromancer... I know its picky but either way both skills vice versa would still be a hugh advantage out of savage compared to other cls.

I'm personally with this statement here:

Everyone knows there's a dps disparity between RDM and the other 2 casters, but that disparity is the trade off for the utility RDM brings. People can argue all day that "well verraise doesnt matter after prog!" and it doesn't matter because that utility exists. I'm not blaming RDM players for wanting a change, but I blame them for blindly ignoring the fact that they have one of the most OP utility abilities in the game but want to throw numbers to say "well we're not strong enough".

that may not count for you but for most rdms they just talk bout pot. : /