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    Wayfinder3's Avatar
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    Sora Belle
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    Faerie
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    First, My point for mentioning groups for parse runs, is to find out "does the 1% apply to them or not?"

    second, nobody denies that you don't need meta to "clear" content, but many players prefer meta(prog or not) and thus warrants reasons for them to exclude jobs even if they don't need it. I've not seen any SAM uwu clears but i won't say there aren't any progging it. i refuse to believe SAM's decided they weren't good enough to go for early uwu prog which leads to me thinking these groups cleared without it because they didn't want it. SAM's have a right to be upset about this pf or not

    third, SMN is very strong among all casters so i understand why people are looking at it and believing it's "too" strong when compared to the other 2, however i do agree that nerfing it won't help casters, only hurt them since as i even stated BRD and DRG are far more oppressive jobs if we're talking OP. RDM's raise is powerful and undeniably so at that however, once the training wheels come off. it's not doing too hot and players notice that couple with smn being a solid alternative means players are trading the possibility of having 1 job rez the entire team which is beyond situational and unlikely given mp constraints but it's still powerful if it can get even 2 people for more dps and a single instant rez a minute far more practical.

    fourth, SAM and MNK vs DRG or NIN, is a geniune real issue, BRD's overwhelming place in this games meta could also be seen as an issue. RDM low dps could also be increased a bit or a possible rework, but raise is preventing this from happening. HIGH dps jobs low utility are also simply bad and have yet to produce any reason to use them. you've even stated that the best blm's will have to go through more work to be better than even a SMN. we live in the age of ease, why spend time trying to get a master blm when i could get a master smn who's better anyway. thats how people think. MCH down to the way it plays is pretty messy, but i guess this isn't a real issue \o/. {INSERT LOCKED OUT PF MEME HERE}, trick attack has basically been the meta defining ability forever.

    Fifth, "get over it" lol you could say that, you wouldn't be wrong either but, people will always want their main to be the best, so they'll always advocate for better. unless SE decides to rotate meta, which is more work then it's worth. I agree to an extent here i think RDM and WHM fall pretty hard compared to their counterparts after prog and they really aren't that much better than the other choices. AST and SMN cleared UWU and SMN was even world 1st, i think players don't like that the jobs that are good for optimizing don't fall of in prog as their counterparts do after progression. your "get over it" doesn't mean anything to anyone. If you've come to tell them they're all wrong and to get over it, why not just do that and be done with it?
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    Last edited by Wayfinder3; 06-18-2018 at 03:59 PM.
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