So about Summoner...

[Neela]

Unless something changes, I'll probably prog o9-12s when it comes as smn because this job is just silly.

I'm bagging you for that!... if that means you will probably quit talking about a cls you are not familiar with. I can't stand those "words of wisdom" Meg already proved wrong. Bahamut at prog is just annoying and u didn't even need to die to mess up the Dragon... facing the advantages of mobility with the clunky Bahamut is really not prog-friendly, Bahamut without max stacks = flat Bahamut, Bahamut up while getting used to new mechanic = flat Bahamut, Bahamut out of raid buff windows = flat Bahamut, Bahamut up infront of downtimes = flat Bahamut. Smn simply aren't those "burst monster" you like to call them in prog. Like Meg said they face the exact same problem Blms do to be max. effectiv: knowing the exact times of mechanics and adjustments of partywide buffs as well for their burst window... after mch its the most punished burst-cls ingame. so how does this fit progression?

smn can move in payoff of pot loss yeah and they have a swiftcast res yeah... but thats all for progress, u can't count bahamut as an prog advantage, nor u can swap egis efficiently not knowing the downtimes... that alone will cut smns dps in prog kinda heavily... compared to farm/speedruns.

...but all I read from your side is "u have a raise = prog monster".... but please... that can't be your one&only major-argument... q.q


-> anyway go for smn and we can close this topic once and for all... ^^'